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Post by DGA » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:38 am

It’s unpleasant

Suggestions?

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Motova » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:42 am

Clinical hypnosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis

"Treating skin diseases with hypnosis (hypnodermatology) has performed well in treating warts, psoriasis, and atopic dermatitis."

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:45 am

DGA wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:38 am
It’s unpleasant

Suggestions?
Don't pick at it.

Seriously though, when I was in massage school I recall learning specific techniques that were said to be helpful, however I never had a psoriatic patient so I had no opportunity to use them.
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Punya » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:33 am

DGA wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:38 am
It’s unpleasant
Yes, it is.
Suggestions?
I developed psoriasis in the scalp in 2013. I was referred by my doctor to a specialist. The specialist confirmed the diagnosis and basically said I would have to live with it for the rest of my life. He prescribed some chemicals to treat it with, which would have had long term adverse health effects.

While researching the topic I came across this clinic: http://psoriasiseczema.com.au. The founder is a research scientist who originally developed a treatment to help a friend. I met with their naturopath, who recommended dietary changes along with some remedies. Six weeks later the psoriasis had all but disappeared and has not returned.

It's a long away from you (hopefully they would do a Skype consultation) and there would definitely be costs in the remedies and postage, but I understand their treatment is very effective for most people.
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by amanitamusc » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:21 am

Could this be caused by provocation?

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Simon E. » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:55 am

Some find a change in diet helps. Malcolm could tell you more.
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Lukeinaz » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:00 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:55 am
Some find a change in diet helps. Malcolm could tell you more.
I was going to ask Malcom about thus very thing. My wife told me its related to gut and just do a fast.
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Simon E. » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:35 pm

I only know what I have read..but I know that there is a theory that it is caused, or at least worsened, by inflammation of the gut. And that dietary measures can help.
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Post by Seishin » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:29 pm

I find I can't use soaps, even the "clinically proven" special ones. Instead, bathe in just water. For really bad episodes bathe in oats. I very gently exfoliate every day and then apply Aveeno cream. It seems to work really well for me, even though the traditional advice is to not exfoliate. A change in diet also works wonders. Eat plenty of natural greek yoghurt. Hope it helps

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Post by Grigoris » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:55 pm

What will work depends on what is causing it.

Almost everybody that has been cured will quote a different treatment.

Have you tried pine or birch tar soap? It works really well for other skin conditions. Buy the proper stuff from a Baltic country. The EU produced stuff (like Wright's Coal Tar Soap) doesn't even use coal tar, because they decided that it is harmful.

I have an incredibly sensitive scalp and even the most natural of shampoo made me break out in itchy spots and and dandruff. Hell, even rain caused problems. The constant scratching was causing my hair to fall out too. After I started using birch tar soap the itching, dandruff and spots stopped completely and my hair started to grow back too.

I use this stuff:

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Lukeinaz » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:36 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:55 pm
What will work depends on what is causing it.

Almost everybody that has been cured will quote a different treatment.

Have you tried pine or birch tar soap? It works really well for other skin conditions. Buy the proper stuff from a Baltic country. The EU produced stuff (like Wright's Coal Tar Soap) doesn't even use coal tar, because they decided that it is harmful.

I have an incredibly sensitive scalp and even the most natural of shampoo made me break out in itchy spots and and dandruff. Hell, even rain caused problems. The constant scratching was causing my hair to fall out too. After I started using birch tar soap the itching, dandruff and spots stopped completely and my hair started to grow back too.

I use this stuff:

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I wonder if i can find that in the states. What are the ingredients?

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Grigoris » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:46 pm

Lukeinaz wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:36 pm
I wonder if i can find that in the states
You can order it from ebay or amazon.
That's what I do.
What are the ingredients?
The particular brand contains: Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Sodium Palmate, Aqua, Glycerin, Betula Tar, Titanium Dioxide, Triethanolamine, PEG-9, Disodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Cellulose Gum, Benzoic Acid, Sodium Chloride.

There are other more naturally produced tar-soaps.
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by DGA » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:19 pm

Punya wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:33 am
DGA wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:38 am
It’s unpleasant
Yes, it is.
Suggestions?
I developed psoriasis in the scalp in 2013. I was referred by my doctor to a specialist. The specialist confirmed the diagnosis and basically said I would have to live with it for the rest of my life. He prescribed some chemicals to treat it with, which would have had long term adverse health effects.

While researching the topic I came across this clinic: http://psoriasiseczema.com.au. The founder is a research scientist who originally developed a treatment to help a friend. I met with their naturopath, who recommended dietary changes along with some remedies. Six weeks later the psoriasis had all but disappeared and has not returned.
This is helpful, thank you. Mine is also a scalp problem. It's not badly flared up at the moment, and I'd like to keep it that way.

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by DGA » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:22 pm

Seishin wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:29 pm
I find I can't use soaps, even the "clinically proven" special ones. Instead, bathe in just water. For really bad episodes bathe in oats. I very gently exfoliate every day and then apply Aveeno cream. It seems to work really well for me, even though the traditional advice is to not exfoliate. A change in diet also works wonders. Eat plenty of natural greek yoghurt. Hope it helps
I have the same problem with many commercial soaps and detergents. I have to be careful what I wash my clothes with. Luckily I seem to be less sensitive to these than I was when I was younger. This is the only benefit to aging I know of.

I hope you get some relief too.

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by DGA » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:25 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:55 pm
What will work depends on what is causing it.

Almost everybody that has been cured will quote a different treatment.

Have you tried pine or birch tar soap? It works really well for other skin conditions. Buy the proper stuff from a Baltic country. The EU produced stuff (like Wright's Coal Tar Soap) doesn't even use coal tar, because they decided that it is harmful.

I have an incredibly sensitive scalp and even the most natural of shampoo made me break out in itchy spots and and dandruff. Hell, even rain caused problems. The constant scratching was causing my hair to fall out too. After I started using birch tar soap the itching, dandruff and spots stopped completely and my hair started to grow back too.

I use this stuff:

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I'm intrigued.

Coal tar is unpleasant to use but it did the job (after six months) to get rid of the flare-up on my scalp. We can get it easily here in the states because it's legal to use as baby formula here.

I'll investigate the pine tar. Is it turpentine's brother, or turpentine's cousin?

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by DGA » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:28 pm

Motova wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:42 am
Clinical hypnosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis

"Treating skin diseases with hypnosis (hypnodermatology) has performed well in treating warts, psoriasis, and atopic dermatitis."
Hypnosis, you say.

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Pero » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:37 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:55 pm
What will work depends on what is causing it.

Almost everybody that has been cured will quote a different treatment.

Have you tried pine or birch tar soap? It works really well for other skin conditions. Buy the proper stuff from a Baltic country. The EU produced stuff (like Wright's Coal Tar Soap) doesn't even use coal tar, because they decided that it is harmful.

I have an incredibly sensitive scalp and even the most natural of shampoo made me break out in itchy spots and and dandruff. Hell, even rain caused problems. The constant scratching was causing my hair to fall out too. After I started using birch tar soap the itching, dandruff and spots stopped completely and my hair started to grow back too.

I use this stuff:

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What's the name of this in English?
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Motova » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:48 pm

DGA wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:28 pm
Motova wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:42 am
Clinical hypnosis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis

"Treating skin diseases with hypnosis (hypnodermatology) has performed well in treating warts, psoriasis, and atopic dermatitis."
Hypnosis, you say.

viewtopic.php?t=25863#p393625
DGA wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:01 pm
Afterward, the researcher told me that some people are basically unhypnotizable, and I am one.
Maybe that is impermanent?

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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Grigoris » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:17 pm

Pero wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:37 pm
What's the name of this in English?
Do a search for pine tar soap. That's how I find it on ebay.
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Re: Psoriasis

Post by Grigoris » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:20 pm

DGA wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:25 pm
I'll investigate the pine tar. Is it turpentine's brother, or turpentine's cousin?
Cousin. Turpentine is made from pine sap (they harvest it here on the island). Pine tar is what you get when you burn pine wood slowly. It forms when the smoke condenses on the inside of chimney tubes.
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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