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Flu Season

Post by amanitamusc » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:42 pm

What have you found that works to avoid the flu?The flu shot, teas,talismans,hiding,incense,masks?

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Re: Flu Season

Post by Simon E. » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:51 pm

I don't avoid the flu shot.

Fact...Five years ago 40% of the staff at our local hospital avoided the flu shot and at times that winter staffing levels were at a dangerous level due to staff sickness that was flu related. One young nurse of flu died, as did a pregnant mum on the maternity ward.

One year ago the take-up for flu shots was almost 95%. And staff sickness for the winter period was at an all time low. Which was just as well because it coincided with the worst flu outbreak in the UK for some years.

Forget the nonsense. Get your shots.
Back to fishin' folks... :namaste:

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Re: Flu Season

Post by Lukeinaz » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:19 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:51 pm
I don't avoid the flu shot.

Fact...Five years ago 40% of the staff at our local hospital avoided the flu shot and at times that winter staffing levels were at a dangerous level due to staff sickness that was flu related. One young nurse of flu died, as did a pregnant mum on the maternity ward.

One year ago the take-up for flu shots was almost 95%. And staff sickness for the winter period was at an all time low. Which was just as well because it coincided with the worst flu outbreak in the UK for some years.

Forget the nonsense. Get your shots.
Forget the shots. They are nonsense.

I see many patients with the flu that have received the shot. The shots are based on previous years data. Even if they get the strain right, it can "shift and drift".

That being said, you should still take Simon's advice.
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Re: Flu Season

Post by amanitamusc » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:34 pm

Lukeinaz wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:19 pm
Simon E. wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:51 pm
I don't avoid the flu shot.

Fact...Five years ago 40% of the staff at our local hospital avoided the flu shot and at times that winter staffing levels were at a dangerous level due to staff sickness that was flu related. One young nurse of flu died, as did a pregnant mum on the maternity ward.

One year ago the take-up for flu shots was almost 95%. And staff sickness for the winter period was at an all time low. Which was just as well because it coincided with the worst flu outbreak in the UK for some years.

Forget the nonsense. Get your shots.
Forget the shots. They are nonsense.

I see many patients with the flu that have received the shot. The shots are based on previous years data. Even if they get the strain right, it can "shift and drift".

That being said, you should still take Simon's advice.
You seem divided.I would never ask you for directions. :tongue:

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Re: Flu Season

Post by Simon E. » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Well quite...Incidentally the stats I quoted re. our local hospital trust were not simply quantative.
My wife manages the NHS Trust that it is part of so she saw the take up increasing year on year and the concomitant drop in staff sickness. The flu shot/jab gives a high degree of protection more years than not. Remember in the UK it is free at the point of delivery and would not be if it were not cost effective.
Back to fishin' folks... :namaste:

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Re: Flu Season

Post by DGA » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:57 pm

amanitamusc wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:42 pm
What have you found that works to avoid the flu?The flu shot, teas,talismans,hiding,incense,masks?
boring stuff like maintaining good health habits (diet, exercise...)

also washing your hands correctly and often

and getting the flu shot in September, before the lines get long and you have to share space with people who probably already have the flu anyway

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Re: Flu Season

Post by Simon E. » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:17 am

All of the above.
Washing hands is suprisingly relevant.
When I did my training the assumption was that most cold and flu was caused by air borne viruses. The more recent research indicates that hand to mouth or eye is the more common means of transmission.
Someone with the active virus blows their nose. Opens a door. The next person touching the handle puts their hand near their mouth or nose a few minutes later..
So sorry Japanese tourists, your surgical masks will not help.
Back to fishin' folks... :namaste:

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Re: Flu Season

Post by amanitamusc » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:17 pm

After a visit to the store. I don't use the hand sanitizer sludge.I use 90% isopropyl in a small container.
The change i get in coins is set aside for a week.
The paper money is put in the clothes dryer for 15m.
All items purchased are sprayed with white vinegar and wiped after 2 minutes.
I then stand in the middle of 2 tesla coils for 1/2 hour.
Some of these statements are true.

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Re: Flu Season

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:08 pm

I used to think there was no reason to get a flu shot. Then one year I got swine flu. Even if it only gave me 20% more protection or lessened the severity of a case I would get it, one of the sickest periods ever in my life, high fever/sweats/chills for an entire week, hives everywhere.....

Other than that the stuff that boosts immunity is not terribly complicated, all the basic lifestyle stuff, good diet, regular exercise, limited stress, good sleep, good hygiene. Then there are supplements here and there that do boost immunity. I have family who are immune suppressed, they have whole lists of supplements they can't take because they are suspected or known to have an effect, offhand I can think of blue green algage and st. John's Wort.

Anecdotally when I was doing Qigong I went through long periods of never getting sick at all, same during periods where I was doing Tsa Lung daily, like I said...just anecdotal.
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Re: Flu Season

Post by Mantrik » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:02 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:17 am
All of the above.
Washing hands is suprisingly relevant.
When I did my training the assumption was that most cold and flu was caused by air borne viruses. The more recent research indicates that hand to mouth or eye is the more common means of transmission.
Someone with the active virus blows their nose. Opens a door. The next person touching the handle puts their hand near their mouth or nose a few minutes later..
So sorry Japanese tourists, your surgical masks will not help.
This is why gyms are great places to simultaneously get fit and sick.
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Re: Flu Season

Post by Simon E. » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:54 am

I can imagine. And swimming pools. :smile: Not a reason to not use them of course. Just practice hygiene afterwards.
Back to fishin' folks... :namaste:

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