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WHAT IS THIS PLEASE?

A goblet or vase atop a bowl atop a plate. Clearly for offerings or ritual celebrations of some kind. It is huge (and a bit wonky) at 18 inches high and 16 across. It is like a very Serkyem and reminds me of stacking up offerings for Tsog/Ganapuja.

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Mantrik wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:42 pm WHAT IS THIS PLEASE?

A goblet or vase atop a bowl atop a plate. Clearly for offerings or ritual celebrations of some kind. It is huge (and a bit wonky) at 18 inches high and 16 across. It is like a very Serkyem and reminds me of stacking up offerings for Tsog/Ganapuja.

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Where is you find this? It is clearly not Tibetan.
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Malcolm wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:06 pm
Mantrik wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:42 pm WHAT IS THIS PLEASE?

A goblet or vase atop a bowl atop a plate. Clearly for offerings or ritual celebrations of some kind. It is huge (and a bit wonky) at 18 inches high and 16 across. It is like a very Serkyem and reminds me of stacking up offerings for Tsog/Ganapuja.

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Where is you find this? It is clearly not Tibetan.
It was from a local flea market. I think it is possibly Islamic or used for a form of Hindu practice.
The seller didn't know - he bought it in Thailand.
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Solved. It is a Persian Qajar Candle Holder. The Middle part is upside down. :)
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Mantrik wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:46 pm Solved. It is a Persian Qajar Candle Holder. The Middle part is upside down. :)

Wow...how cool ! I thought it looked Persian...

Look at this for $5,000 :

http://armsandantiques.com/fine-19th-c- ... icks-ii486
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Kunga Lhadzom wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:07 pm
Mantrik wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:46 pm Solved. It is a Persian Qajar Candle Holder. The Middle part is upside down. :)

Wow...how cool ! I thought it looked Persian...

Look at this for $5,000 :

http://armsandantiques.com/fine-19th-c- ... icks-ii486
But wouldn't that be a pity, spending $5k on a couple of candle-holders? When you could just add $1k more and become recognized as a living female budha?

https://www.generosity.com/faith-religi ... ter-buddha

Sorry, KL, couldn't resist... :jumping:
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cyril wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:32 pm Sorry, KL, couldn't resist...
:jumping:


Yeah...and you'd probably have to renew it every year :lol:
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I thought it was an ancient chocolate fountain.
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TharpaChodron wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:40 am I thought it was an ancient chocolate fountain.

Well, it's an idea which may yet come to fruition! lol :)
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Kunga Lhadzom wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:07 pm
Mantrik wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:46 pm Solved. It is a Persian Qajar Candle Holder. The Middle part is upside down. :)

Wow...how cool ! I thought it looked Persian...

Look at this for $5,000 :

http://armsandantiques.com/fine-19th-c- ... icks-ii486
Cost me £60. Late birthday present to myself. Fantastic little market in Bath - you never know what will turn up. The same guy is also selling North Vietnamese textiles. :shrug: :)
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cyril wrote: Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:32 pmBut wouldn't that be a pity, spending $5k on a couple of candle-holders? When you could just add $1k more and become recognized as a living female budha?

https://www.generosity.com/faith-religi ... ter-buddha

Sorry, KL, couldn't resist... :jumping:
The saddest part is that 52 idiots gave their hard earned cash...
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Grigoris wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:12 am The saddest part is that 52 idiots gave their hard earned cash...
My teacher always gave money to the people on the streets....you know, the ones holding up cardboard signs, asking for donations....i told him they'll just spend it on alcohol...he said something to the effect : It's their happiness....
Also don't you create good merits for yourself by giving to others...from your heart...even though you don't know exactly what they will be doing with the money you give. It's the giving from your heart that counts as merit. Maybe that's one way the Bodhisattva's disguise themselves....as vagabonds, or scam artists...to see how much heart you really have....
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Kunga Lhadzom wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:43 pm
Grigoris wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:12 am The saddest part is that 52 idiots gave their hard earned cash...
My teacher always gave money to the people on the streets....you know, the ones holding up cardboard signs, asking for donations....i told him they'll just spend it on alcohol...he said something to the effect : It's their happiness....
Also don't you create good merits for yourself by giving to others...from your heart...even though you don't know exactly what they will be doing with the money you give. It's the giving from your heart that counts as merit. Maybe that's one way the Bodhisattva's disguise themselves....as vagabonds, or scam artists...to see how much heart you really have....
A good intention, money given, drugs taken and death results. That's a rubbish approach to karma.

You give food, clothes, a voucher for the night shelter, feed their dog etc. You never ever give money.
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Mantrik wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:51 pm You give food,
They could also choke on the food and die ....
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Kunga Lhadzom wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:43 pm
Grigoris wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:12 am The saddest part is that 52 idiots gave their hard earned cash...
My teacher always gave money to the people on the streets....you know, the ones holding up cardboard signs, asking for donations....i told him they'll just spend it on alcohol...he said something to the effect : It's their happiness....
Also don't you create good merits for yourself by giving to others...from your heart...even though you don't know exactly what they will be doing with the money you give. It's the giving from your heart that counts as merit. Maybe that's one way the Bodhisattva's disguise themselves....as vagabonds, or scam artists...to see how much heart you really have....
Well I sincerely hope they use the money to further their Dharma training and practice.
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