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Why samsara exists
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Samsara exists because you haven't realized Nirvana ?
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I am not separate from my experience, but I am not what I experience.
How do you understand the underlined statement:
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
“Enlightenment means to see what harm you are involved in and to renounce it.” David Brazier, The New Buddhism
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
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So what are you?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Conventionally, I could answer that question in a myriad of ways; ultimately, I don’t know.
But you haven’t shared your understanding of “all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss.”
But you haven’t shared your understanding of “all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss.”
“Enlightenment means to see what harm you are involved in and to renounce it.” David Brazier, The New Buddhism
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
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Conventionally, I could answer that question in a myriad of ways; ultimately, I don’t know.
That's a conversation stopper if ever I have seen one! I think I'll be using it more often.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Thomas Jeffersonall experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
I think this says at least a little bit about engaged Buddhism (living Dharma)
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Grigoris; Yes, I see your point about my answer. It wasn’t meant in that way.
This evening I thought about your question, “So what are you?”
I am an old, broken wayfarer.
This evening I thought about your question, “So what are you?”
I am an old, broken wayfarer.
“Enlightenment means to see what harm you are involved in and to renounce it.” David Brazier, The New Buddhism
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
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And yet utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss!
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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@Arcturus My teacher uses to say "why is this, why is that? There cannot be more useless questions."
I don't mean to disdain you by saying that rather than trying to shift your focus.
Just see for yourself what you are, what the essence of it is. Whether you understand the notion of samsara fully or about what you may have doubts. Put anything in relation with the perceiver rather than entering a theoretical debate.
Other than that I advise studying the initial verses of the Evocation of Samantabhadra ref. also my footer
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zx8ftzvmr79iv ... y.pdf?dl=0
or further audio explanations http://eifelaudio.simplybeing.co.uk/201 ... tumn-2017/
Be what knows the arising
how about that, @Clyde?
(http://unfetteredmind.org/revelations-o ... sent-good/)
I don't mean to disdain you by saying that rather than trying to shift your focus.
Just see for yourself what you are, what the essence of it is. Whether you understand the notion of samsara fully or about what you may have doubts. Put anything in relation with the perceiver rather than entering a theoretical debate.
Other than that I advise studying the initial verses of the Evocation of Samantabhadra ref. also my footer
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zx8ftzvmr79iv ... y.pdf?dl=0
or further audio explanations http://eifelaudio.simplybeing.co.uk/201 ... tumn-2017/
Well, there is this text by Jigme Lingpa so dear to me with a sentence I still cannot fully penetrate:
Be what knows the arising
how about that, @Clyde?
(http://unfetteredmind.org/revelations-o ... sent-good/)
Ho! All the possible appearances and existences of samsara and nirvana have the same source, yet two paths and two results arise as the magical display of awareness and unawareness.
HO NANG SRI KHOR DAE THAMCHE KUN ZHI CHIG LAM NYI DRAE BU NYI RIG DANG MA RIG CHOM THRUL TE
HO NANG SRI KHOR DAE THAMCHE KUN ZHI CHIG LAM NYI DRAE BU NYI RIG DANG MA RIG CHOM THRUL TE
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Jigme LingpaMy nature is great completion.
“Enlightenment means to see what harm you are involved in and to renounce it.” David Brazier, The New Buddhism
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
“The most straightforward advice on awakening enlightened mind is this: practice not causing harm to anyone—yourself or others—and every day, do what you can to be helpful.” Pema Chodron, “What to Do When the Going Gets Rough”
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There is no greater purpose for the existence of samsara.
"I have never encountered a person who committed bad deeds." ― Ven. Jìngkōng
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Which again begs the question: Is your nature separate to samsaric existence? The same as samsaric existence? Both? Neither?
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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I don't know why there is all this discussion. The answer to why samsara exists is that sentient beings are subject to grasping a self that does not exist as real.
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I just thought of another one...
Samsara exists, so we can enjoy it, then it becomes NIRVANA. ?
Samsara exists, so we can enjoy it, then it becomes NIRVANA. ?
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Are you enjoying it now?Kunga Lhadzom wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:51 pm I just thought of another one...
Samsara exists, so we can enjoy it, then it becomes NIRVANA. ?
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YesAryjna wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:34 pmAre you enjoying it now?Kunga Lhadzom wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:51 pm I just thought of another one...
Samsara exists, so we can enjoy it, then it becomes NIRVANA. ?
I'm having lunch.....
And sitting in a palace
With a king...
I am the lucky servant
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Can we please get back on topic people? Thanks.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde