Importance of Memory in Dharma

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:39 pm

Pero wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:40 pm
I got Make It Stick some months ago but haven't read it yet. How do you find it?
It was great, definitely worth reading. Although
https://www.amazon.ca/Your-Memory-How-W ... E8YWQM6JSE is better, and has a lot of the information that https://www.amazon.ca/Make-Stick-Scienc ... E8YWQM6JSE has... I'll have to reread both (which I definitely will) and make some notes and compare them.
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Pero » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:25 pm

Thanks. I'll try to start reading it. Why do you think that Your Memory is better?
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:32 pm

Pero wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:25 pm
Thanks. I'll try to start reading it. Why do you think that Your Memory is better?
Because it had a lot of make it stick's information. I'd still recommend reading both, but if you choose one first or if you're really tight on cash then definitely go for your memory.
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:49 am

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/184590 ... UTF8&psc=1

I just finished this and recommend it. :smile:
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Monlam Tharchin » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:54 am

Motova, just curious, how will you make use of the information from that book? I've always found hypnosis and that sort of thing interesting, but was never really sure what to do with the information.
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:14 am

Monlam Tharchin wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:54 am
Motova, just curious, how will you make use of the information from that book? I've always found hypnosis and that sort of thing interesting, but was never really sure what to do with the information.
This book taught me that one can use emotion, sensory information, and imagination to bridge oneself to a past experience or memory. This can be done without hypnosis, but is much more effective in hypnosis. While focused and relaxed one is in trance, the guiding of one's relaxed focus with language (positive and present tense) and imagination would make that trance hypnosis.

If one uses mnemonics (memory techniques that convert information with imagination and associations into more memorable and accessible information) to learn something it will make that memory much more tangible so that one won't need to go into a deep trance to access it. In addition, living mindfully will also make one's past experience more tangible and accessible to the present.
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by pael » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:34 am

dzoki wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:14 pm
Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:38 pm
How important is memory in practicing Dharma?
Do the practice and recitation ... Manjshurinamasamgiti tantra.
Does it need lung etc.?
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by pemachophel » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:50 pm

"Does it need lung etc.?"

yes
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:30 am

I am having a lot of success memorizing paragraphs 4-5 words at a time through recall (cognitive scientists say on average we can only maintain 4-5 words in our short term memory).

First I do 5 successful recall repetitions, then 5 recall repetitions including the last words/sentences (up to about 4 sentences or 5-6 lines or 50-60 words).

Sometimes I can move to a whole sentence and skip the 5 (or 2-3) recalls if it's easy, and then I include the recalls of the prior words/sentences.

It's really effective, and until I develop a sophisticated mnemonic system I'll be using this or a better modified version.
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