Importance of Memory in Dharma

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Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:38 pm

How important is memory in practicing Dharma?

What did the Buddha say about memory?

Do you have any tricks to develop a good memory?

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Simon E. » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Not a trick exactly.
But I find the more present I am the better my memory functions.

The enemy of memory is prapanca.
" Smokey the Bear will surely appear with his Vajra Shovel".

'The Smokey The Bear Sutra' Gary Snyder.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by dzogchungpa » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:09 pm

It's worth knowing that the Buddhist term which has come to be translated as 'mindfulness', i.e. 'smṛti' or 'dran pa' in Tibetan, basically means remembering or memory.
Taking the attitude that the phenomenal world is sacred is the first and last practice of all. - Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:18 pm

Has anyone read this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Mirror-Memory-Ref ... +of+memory

It's still sitting in my google library unread. :emb:

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:46 pm

This one looks interesting: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/019933 ... YIK6Y9EEQB

Butt sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :toilet: , it's expensive.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Virgo » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:59 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:09 pm
It's worth knowing that the Buddhist term which has come to be translated as 'mindfulness', i.e. 'smṛti' or 'dran pa' in Tibetan, basically means remembering or memory.
It denotes a kind of keeping in mind, so it can help you be aware of a present phenomena, or recall something, etc.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Virgo » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:07 pm

Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:38 pm
How important is memory in practicing Dharma?

What did the Buddha say about memory?

Do you have any tricks to develop a good memory?
Fundamentally, one should keep the three humours balanced. One can apply certain herbs and remedies and so on if one needs to. A person should see a doctor of Tibetan Medicine or Ayurveda for these purposes. The mind is very precious and we must maintain it and keep it in tact.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:16 pm

Inspiring story, but the writer comes across as an asshole sometimes. It has some practical use, but mostly it's just inspirational: https://www.amazon.ca/Moonwalking-Einst ... h+einstein

This one is good if you already have a foundation in mnemonics and are looking for how to adapt it to different kinds of information:

https://www.amazon.ca/How-Develop-Brill ... H3QV112RGN

This one reads like a polite, practical and inspirational friend, I would skip the first two and go for this one instead.

https://www.amazon.ca/Unlimited-Memory- ... H3QV112RGN

I am in the process of reading these two:

https://www.amazon.ca/Your-Memory-How-W ... E8YWQM6JSE

https://www.amazon.ca/Make-Stick-Scienc ... E8YWQM6JSE

...

I've only read the first chapter of: https://www.amazon.ca/Your-Memory-How-W ... E8YWQM6JSE

And if I had to hazard a guess, it's probably the best and you won't need any others.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by PuerAzaelis » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:16 pm

Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:18 pm
Has anyone read this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Mirror-Memory-Ref ... +of+memory

It's still sitting in my google library unread. :emb:
I don’t remember.
Generally, enjoyment of speech is the gateway to poor [results]. So it becomes the foundation for generating all negative emotional states. Jampel Pawo, The Certainty of the Diamond Mind

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Virgo » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:21 pm

PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:16 pm
Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:18 pm
Has anyone read this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Mirror-Memory-Ref ... +of+memory

It's still sitting in my google library unread. :emb:
I don’t remember.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:30 pm

Virgo wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:21 pm
PuerAzaelis wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:16 pm
Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:18 pm
Has anyone read this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Mirror-Memory-Ref ... +of+memory

It's still sitting in my google library unread. :emb:
I don’t remember.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by weitsicht » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:47 am

Memories are not for enlightened beings. Enlightened beings don't remember because, for them, there is no past. Past - and for that matter present and future - are for being like us who use the past as a reference and then expect and assume that the future will come.
DJKR
So until enlightened I guess we function on the Basis of some Kind of memory.
However it is neither helpful not unhelpful on the path.

If I see holes in my Memory, I don't try to reconstruct not to blame myself. I look at ego's grasping for the past
Practice however has the side effect on me to increase Memory and Concentration. Since a side effect, I also do not try to look into that neither. It just is.
When conceptual thinking arises,
Don't look at what arises: be what knows the arising.
Like an oak peg in hard ground,
Stand firm in awareness that knows.
And go deep into mystery.

Lama Jigme Lingpa http://yeolde.unfetteredmind.org/revela ... sent-good/

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Simon E. » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:59 am

dzogchungpa wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:09 pm
It's worth knowing that the Buddhist term which has come to be translated as 'mindfulness', i.e. 'smṛti' or 'dran pa' in Tibetan, basically means remembering or memory.
It does. CTR used several words to capture the meaning in translation. One was 'recollection' in the original sense of re-collecting our scattered thoughts and bringing them back to the present.
" Smokey the Bear will surely appear with his Vajra Shovel".

'The Smokey The Bear Sutra' Gary Snyder.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:47 pm

weitsicht wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:47 am

However it is neither helpful not unhelpful on the path.
Can you please explain why?

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by dzoki » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:14 pm

Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:38 pm
How important is memory in practicing Dharma?
Memory is important to retain Dharma in our mind. If we recieve teachings but then forget them instantly what use are they? If we do not remember teachings we cannot apply them, because we do not remeber what to do and how to do. Patrul Rinpoche speaks about this in his Kunzang Lame Shallung.
Bad memory is a sign of scattered mind.
Motova wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:38 pm
Do you have any tricks to develop a good memory?
There are several things one can do, for example - 1. train in shamatha and attain at least approach samadhi, when one is familiar with samadhi, the mind becomes sharper and it is much easier to remember things and to recall them, upon attaining and stabilizing first dhyana, one should be able to recall any past moment of the mind. 2. Do the practice and recitation of Manjushri mantra and Manjshurinamasamgiti tantra. 3. Do the recitation of mantra of purification of elements.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Pero » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:40 pm

I got Make It Stick some months ago but haven't read it yet. How do you find it?
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by Motova » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:55 pm

Pero wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:40 pm
I got Make It Stick some months ago but haven't read it yet. How do you find it?
I'll tell you when I finish it, I have only read the preface and intro.

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Re: Importance of Memory in Dharma

Post by weitsicht » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:55 pm

Motova wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:47 pm
weitsicht wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:47 am

However it is neither helpful not unhelpful on the path.
Can you please explain why?
The path is about realization (and hence a lot by letting go), not about memorization.
Just work with the resources available to you. Don't pimp them.

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When conceptual thinking arises,
Don't look at what arises: be what knows the arising.
Like an oak peg in hard ground,
Stand firm in awareness that knows.
And go deep into mystery.

Lama Jigme Lingpa http://yeolde.unfetteredmind.org/revela ... sent-good/

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