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stiener36
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New to the idea, currently in a state of flux

Post by stiener36 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:25 pm

Good day everyone, as a rebellious teen I spent most of my teenage life debating the merits of Christianity and ultimately becoming an atheist. Now in my life I'm a year shy of 30 and once again questioning my own beliefs, souls, eternity, heaven, some of these things are similar, some make no sense, casting the belief of science over top does high light a few things that upon personal searching has lead me to Buddhism.

Even with science, what happens preposterously is limited to speculation but is simultaneously defined by the laws of conservation... which is kind of Buddhist in my personal opinion. And here I am, questioning myself trying to figure out where I am as a person, I don't follow the doctrine of Christianity and have sworn it off, but under the lens of science, Buddhism became a thing.

I don't know what to do, I don't know where to start, do I become Buddhist? If I so, where do I start? If I need guidance where do I turn? What is meditation, what is zen? What is this brave new world? I need some help and look forward to hearing for you folks.

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KeithA
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Re: New to the idea, currently in a state of flux

Post by KeithA » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:54 pm

stiener36 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:25 pm
Good day everyone, as a rebellious teen I spent most of my teenage life debating the merits of Christianity and ultimately becoming an atheist. Now in my life I'm a year shy of 30 and once again questioning my own beliefs, souls, eternity, heaven, some of these things are similar, some make no sense, casting the belief of science over top does high light a few things that upon personal searching has lead me to Buddhism.

Even with science, what happens preposterously is limited to speculation but is simultaneously defined by the laws of conservation... which is kind of Buddhist in my personal opinion. And here I am, questioning myself trying to figure out where I am as a person, I don't follow the doctrine of Christianity and have sworn it off, but under the lens of science, Buddhism became a thing.

I don't know what to do, I don't know where to start, do I become Buddhist? If I so, where do I start? If I need guidance where do I turn? What is meditation, what is zen? What is this brave new world? I need some help and look forward to hearing for you folks.
I'd suggest you start with finding a Sangha. Hopefully, there are some nearby. Go to their intro/orientation and see what you think. Leave your opinion and ideas at the door and just pay attention. You will know pretty quickly if it is a group worth being with. If it isn't, try another one.

Most Buddhist's feel that finding the Dharma is rare thing. Practicing even less common. Good luck!

_/|\_

Keith

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Re: New to the idea, currently in a state of flux

Post by weitsicht » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:17 pm

Welcome to the forum first of all, Keith. Feel free to introduce yourself in the Introductions Section viewforum.php?f=10

It is always good to have questions and ponder about them. It is also good to see that through them you become someone different from who you previously were.

Pls be aware that Buddhism should not be mistaken as a religion. It is an approach to see things differently.

I learned very much through books and articles because the way people write is for most of them more balanced. As soon as you talk with someone, nonverbal communication and projections kick in.
This being said, the e-sangha and the publicised would cannot substitute everything. As Keith has already pointed out, a person to person meeting becomes indispensable. There are terms whose content is ineffable, hence the need for pointing-out.

Time allowed me to collect some links for a start.
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=26249
https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhism-nuts ... ls-dharma/
the Gatsal Newsletters on the six paramitas (or perfections) http://tenzinpalmo.com/jetsunma-tenzin- ... anscripts/
I also recommend "How to meditate" by Pema Chödrön

But you see from that selection that this recommendation - apart from the first - is biased towards Tibetan Buddhism already. So Enjoy, be brave and never stop judging for yourself :twothumbsup:
Ho! All the possible appearances and existences of samsara and nirvana have the same source, yet two paths and two results arise as the magical display of awareness and unawareness.
HO NANG SRI KHOR DAE THAMCHE KUN ZHI CHIG LAM NYI DRAE BU NYI RIG DANG MA RIG CHOM THRUL TE

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Re: New to the idea, currently in a state of flux

Post by Javierfv1212 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:29 pm

weitsicht wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:17 pm
Pls be aware that Buddhism should not be mistaken as a religion. It is an approach to see things differently.
Nonsense, Buddhism is clearly a religion. It's a unique and very different religion than others, especially monotheistic religions, but it is a religion.


stiener36, Welcome to dharmawheel, I get that you are currently in a state of confusion, but are seeking some guidance. It is hard without knowing you personally and knowing what you are struggling with individually to recommend a good introduction, there are many ways 'into' a tradition as you might imagine. At the moment, I can point you to reddit's r/Buddhism FAQ (frequently asked questions page) which has a lot of basic information and links to some basic literature.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/wiki/faq


Perhaps you could expand on what is currently occupying your mind and what specific issues you are struggling with / seeking answers to?
It is quite impossible to find the Buddha anywhere other than in one's own mind.
~Padmasambhava

Amid those who are self-constrained, the Stable One would not posit as categorically true or false
anything seen, heard, or sensed, clung to and considered truth by others.
Since they have already seen this dart to which people cling and adhere,
saying “I know, I see, it is just so,”
the Tathāgatas cling to nothing.
-Kalaka sutta

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Re: New to the idea, currently in a state of flux

Post by Monlam Tharchin » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:07 pm

KeithA wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:54 pm
stiener36 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:25 pm
Good day everyone, as a rebellious teen I spent most of my teenage life debating the merits of Christianity and ultimately becoming an atheist. Now in my life I'm a year shy of 30 and once again questioning my own beliefs, souls, eternity, heaven, some of these things are similar, some make no sense, casting the belief of science over top does high light a few things that upon personal searching has lead me to Buddhism.

Even with science, what happens preposterously is limited to speculation but is simultaneously defined by the laws of conservation... which is kind of Buddhist in my personal opinion. And here I am, questioning myself trying to figure out where I am as a person, I don't follow the doctrine of Christianity and have sworn it off, but under the lens of science, Buddhism became a thing.

I don't know what to do, I don't know where to start, do I become Buddhist? If I so, where do I start? If I need guidance where do I turn? What is meditation, what is zen? What is this brave new world? I need some help and look forward to hearing for you folks.
I'd suggest you start with finding a Sangha. Hopefully, there are some nearby. Go to their intro/orientation and see what you think. Leave your opinion and ideas at the door and just pay attention. You will know pretty quickly if it is a group worth being with. If it isn't, try another one.

Most Buddhist's feel that finding the Dharma is rare thing. Practicing even less common. Good luck!

_/|\_

Keith
I second all of this.

While you can do some study on your own, Buddhism is such a wide set of schools and approaches that if you don't start somewhere, like a local sangha, it can be hard to start anywhere at all.

Good luck to you. We're all rooting for you :)

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