Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

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Tenma
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Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Tenma » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:32 pm

Is there a difference?

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Re: Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Bristollad » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Yes...

Mindfulness: a distinct mental factor that repeatedly brings to mind a phenomenon of previous acquaintance without forgetting it. It doesn’t allow the mind to be distracted from the object and is the basis for concentration.

Bodhicitta: the wish to attain full enlightenment for the benefit of all sentient beings.

compassion: the wish that others may be free of suffering and its causes.

Because of our compassion, we try to develop uncontrived bodhicitta. In the face of obstacles, difficult situations and people, to remember loving-kindness, compassion and our wish to help others we must our develop mindfulness.

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Re: Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Tenma » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:14 pm

Bristollad wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm
Yes...

Mindfulness: a distinct mental factor that repeatedly brings to mind a phenomenon of previous acquaintance without forgetting it. It doesn’t allow the mind to be distracted from the object and is the basis for concentration.

Bodhicitta: the wish to attain full enlightenment for the benefit of all sentient beings.

compassion: the wish that others may be free of suffering and its causes.

Because of our compassion, we try to develop uncontrived bodhicitta. In the face of obstacles, difficult situations and people, to remember loving-kindness, compassion and our wish to help others we must our develop mindfulness.
So let me get this straight.
Compassion develops bodhicitta, but during difficult obstacles, mindfulness develops compassion, yes?

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Re: Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Josef » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:10 pm

Tenma wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:14 pm
Bristollad wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm
Yes...

Mindfulness: a distinct mental factor that repeatedly brings to mind a phenomenon of previous acquaintance without forgetting it. It doesn’t allow the mind to be distracted from the object and is the basis for concentration.

Bodhicitta: the wish to attain full enlightenment for the benefit of all sentient beings.

compassion: the wish that others may be free of suffering and its causes.

Because of our compassion, we try to develop uncontrived bodhicitta. In the face of obstacles, difficult situations and people, to remember loving-kindness, compassion and our wish to help others we must our develop mindfulness.
So let me get this straight.
Compassion develops bodhicitta, but during difficult obstacles, mindfulness develops compassion, yes?
It isnt that lateral. Bodhicitta is cultivated through contemplating the four immeasurables. Through that practice love, compassion, joy, and equanimity develop. In order to develop these qualities we must have mindfulness.
By practicing bodhicitta on the relative and ultimate level all of these are complete.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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Re: Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Tenma » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:40 pm

Josef wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:10 pm
Tenma wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:14 pm
Bristollad wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:05 pm
Yes...

Mindfulness: a distinct mental factor that repeatedly brings to mind a phenomenon of previous acquaintance without forgetting it. It doesn’t allow the mind to be distracted from the object and is the basis for concentration.

Bodhicitta: the wish to attain full enlightenment for the benefit of all sentient beings.

compassion: the wish that others may be free of suffering and its causes.

Because of our compassion, we try to develop uncontrived bodhicitta. In the face of obstacles, difficult situations and people, to remember loving-kindness, compassion and our wish to help others we must our develop mindfulness.
So let me get this straight.
Compassion develops bodhicitta, but during difficult obstacles, mindfulness develops compassion, yes?
It isnt that lateral. Bodhicitta is cultivated through contemplating the four immeasurables. Through that practice love, compassion, joy, and equanimity develop. In order to develop these qualities we must have mindfulness.
By practicing bodhicitta on the relative and ultimate level all of these are complete.
So as mindfulness develops compassion, compassion alongside the other 3 immeasurable together develop bodhicitta? So bodhicitta is the embodiment of all these traits?

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Re: Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Josef » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:31 pm

Tenma wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:40 pm
Josef wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:10 pm
Tenma wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:14 pm


So let me get this straight.
Compassion develops bodhicitta, but during difficult obstacles, mindfulness develops compassion, yes?
It isnt that lateral. Bodhicitta is cultivated through contemplating the four immeasurables. Through that practice love, compassion, joy, and equanimity develop. In order to develop these qualities we must have mindfulness.
By practicing bodhicitta on the relative and ultimate level all of these are complete.
So as mindfulness develops compassion, compassion alongside the other 3 immeasurable together develop bodhicitta? So bodhicitta is the embodiment of all these traits?
Yes, bodhicitta embodies all of them and more.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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Re: Mindfulness vs. Bodhicitta vs. Compassion

Post by Tenma » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:07 am

D'accord, thank you all!

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