FA!!!! It is wonderful to hear from you again.jinglebell wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:33 pmYes I remember what happened wellDan74 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:00 pmHi jinglebell (what was your previous nik?)
Yes, I agree. Although I was never on the E-Sangha staff, I remember a great deal of displeasure and censure of things like a modern Zen understanding of "monk", notions like post-mortem rebirth and permanent nirvana and the like.
Truth be told, there is a variety of views among modern Zen teachers and my attitude is that a Zen forum can be inclusive of those of traditional bend as well as those who are more on the revisionist side of things, as long as everyone behaves. There are issues at times when it comes to accusations of intellectual dishonesty or misrepresenting the sutras/teachings, but fundamentally Zen is about practice and disagreements regarding the dogma should not loom so large, in my view (as much as the dogma can inform practice as well).
Anyway, this is what we attempt to do at the new forum. Let me invite you to check it out sometime.
Namdrol and co. were pretty unfair to us at that time imo, especially and including when he didn't understand why and how we related to each other.
Of course the flipside is that there is such a thing as misrepresenting the teachings/teaching degenerate Dharma - so it's always a question of balance and persona, imo. At the time, we did have many good authentic practitioners posting imho - and yet he/they still saw it as an issue because they didn't speak his/their language (words). Such dogmatism.
My nik was Floating Abu.
Take care Dan74. Well wishes to you all!
edit: I was the artist formerly known as "Jok Hae"