Memorial/Passing Forum
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:41 am
We probably need a memorial/death announcement forum in order to announce deaths and to memorialize people.
Kirt
Kirt
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A tamasic forum of death? Is it really the best idea?We probably need a memorial/death announcement forum in order to announce deaths and to memorialize people.
Kirt
Do you object to obituaries? In the best cases these are celebrations of parinirvana.Virgo wrote:A tamasic forum of death? Is it really the best idea?We probably need a memorial/death announcement forum in order to announce deaths and to memorialize people.
Kirt
Kevin
I am just going to ignore the "tamasic" bit (not having a clue what you are talking about) and ask you: why would it be a bad idea?Virgo wrote:A tamasic forum of death? Is it really the best idea?We probably need a memorial/death announcement forum in order to announce deaths and to memorialize people.
Kirt
Kevin
Sounds like a joke?Simon E. wrote:...
Tamas is the quality of inertia and darkness, but why that should apply to Memorials of the dead escapes me.
YEs.. I agree, but in the case of members here I wonder how we would be informed of anyone's passing if they are anonymous. . . I guess usually some members know each other in real time though. . .Ayu wrote: I was informed of the death of a very dear member in another forum about one year later. This was a bad feeling. I thought, this internet is much too anonymus.
I am sure Kevin will inform us...Ayu wrote:Sounds like a joke?Simon E. wrote:...
Tamas is the quality of inertia and darkness, but why that should apply to Memorials of the dead escapes me.
I know the term "tamasic" is used for "black" food (which for example should not be taken befor an initiation), like meat, fish, onion, alcohol... Also the passions like greed, hatred, anger, envy can be called tamasic, or baleful acts.
So i guess it was a joke and the is missing.
Everyone, but most of the postings in this vein have been masters and teachers, etc. Just right now they are scattered over different forums.Sönam wrote:I thought we were speaking of passing of masters, teachers and so on ... but why not us also (I'll tell you when it will happen to me)
Sönam
Thank you Simon; I was referencing the three gunas.Simon E. wrote: I am sure Kevin will inform us...
It can also be a damn fine lesson in impermanence. A stark reminder for the need to practice diligently while we still have this precious human existence. A method to assist in not forgetting the dead and their contributions (ie reminding us of the dependently arisen nature of phenomena). Etc...Virgo wrote:I just think it is sort of a bad energy to have a specific forum just for dead masters and/or practitioners. It will start off slow with just one, and then posters who stay here for a long time will slowly see it grow over time. It can lead to thoughts of the forum slowly filling up, full of the names of the dead, to thoughts that all good masters are going to die, it will be another fresh reminder to students of a master who has died every time they see their masters name there, etc. Also, for a sub-forum it creates a kind of stuck-energy which is very tamasic for a number of reasons.
The Kapali Siddha Kapalapa meditated on the corpses of his wife and 5 sons that had died of a plague. He made his bone ornaments from his sons bones and his kapala from his wife's skull.My Dakini-woman, my queen, my lady!
The visible form of my pure awareness,
Form not separate from me, nor yet a part of me,
The phenomenal appearance of empty space:
She is beyond compare and beyond words.
Oh trust me, I am aware of death and have been around it my whole life. Our stomping grounds as teens were cemeteries, and I can assure you I spent much more time in large cemeteries than anyone here has over their life while I was growing up, unless you happen to work in one perhaps.Sherab Dorje wrote:It can also be a damn fine lesson in impermanence. A stark reminder for the need to practice diligently while we still have this precious human existence. A method to assist in not forgetting the dead and their contributions (ie reminding us of the dependently arisen nature of phenomena). Etc...Virgo wrote:I just think it is sort of a bad energy to have a specific forum just for dead masters and/or practitioners. It will start off slow with just one, and then posters who stay here for a long time will slowly see it grow over time. It can lead to thoughts of the forum slowly filling up, full of the names of the dead, to thoughts that all good masters are going to die, it will be another fresh reminder to students of a master who has died every time they see their masters name there, etc. Also, for a sub-forum it creates a kind of stuck-energy which is very tamasic for a number of reasons.
Yogis practiced in charnel grounds surrounded by the rotting remains of sentient beings.
The Siddha Kankaripa saw the true nature of phenomena by meditating on his beloved wife's corpse.
This is a very fine article indeed. But it says nothing about petrifying people because of memorial places. "Tamasic" means "leading to dullness". This has nothing to do with knowing about death and having memorial places or cemeteries.Virgo wrote:...
I am not saying we shouldn't let people die! All I am saying is that the thoughts and feeelings associated with those happening from people on the board who read or write those posts get's sort of petrified and stabilised by creating a specific forum for this. The energy cycles, recyclyes, much better and sort of washes out when it is in a more free-flowing forum like the announcements section.
I am a feng shui practitioner so I notice this kind of stuff.
Here is a nice article on the three gunas:
http://www.vedanet.com/2012/06/the-thre ... ciousness/
But then you must know, that there is no bad energy. To hide the death creates the bad energy.I also meditate on death and am aware of it's importance.