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Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:30 pm
by Huseng
This is for real. A lorry full of cats destined for hot pot.

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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:41 pm
by lowlydog
Grrrrrrr! Woof! Woof! Woof! :oops: old habits die hard. :smile:

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:43 pm
by pueraeternus
Huseng wrote:This is for real. A lorry full of cats destined for hot pot.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... g-pot.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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This is disturbing and depressing. As one of comment posters in the Telegraph article wrote, eating dogs and cats are not common among the Chinese, and certainly most overseas Chinese consider that barbaric. In many of the large cities in China, the people treat pets the same way as most Westerners do.

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:54 pm
by lowlydog
Eating Dogs!!! :jawdrop: "What you talking about Willis?"

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:03 pm
by Huseng
pueraeternus wrote: This is disturbing and depressing. As one of comment posters in the Telegraph article wrote, eating dogs and cats are not common among the Chinese, and certainly most overseas Chinese consider that barbaric. In many of the large cities in China, the people treat pets the same way as most Westerners do.
Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:01 pm
by DNS
Huseng wrote: Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...
:thumbsup:
There is no logic in exempting the meat of some animals on customary grounds while not exempting all meat.

To be consistent:
A vegetarian would not want to eat a cat just as much as not eating a cow.
An omnivore who eats a cow should be just as willing to eat a cat.

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:48 am
by pueraeternus
David N. Snyder wrote: To be consistent:
A vegetarian would not want to eat a cat just as much as not eating a cow.
An omnivore who eats a cow should be just as willing to eat a cat.
That is true to some degree. However, I think most people consider pets to be an extension of their human family, hence they don't eat them. If not, based on the above hypothesis, then an omnivore would be also willing to eat humans. :smile:

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:54 am
by pueraeternus
Huseng wrote: Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...
True. It is true that humans tend to not want to eat animals that are considered cute, cuddly, or are culturally considered companion animals. But this is not a bad thing, since it limits the number of animals being considered as livestock.

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:24 am
by zenkarma
I gather the dish is called "Tiger and Dragon Locked in Battle" and that it also contains snake. Does anyone have the recipe?

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:28 am
by Huseng
pueraeternus wrote:
Huseng wrote: Sure, but almost nobody cares about the cows which are just as intelligent and emotional as the cats...
True. It is true that humans tend to not want to eat animals that are considered cute, cuddly, or are culturally considered companion animals. But this is not a bad thing, since it limits the number of animals being considered as livestock.
Chickens are apparently quite affectionate once you get to know them. They have good memories and remember the pecking order, so to speak.

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:38 am
by pueraeternus
Huseng wrote: Chickens are apparently quite affectionate once you get to know them. They have good memories and remember the pecking order, so to speak.
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:32 am
by Grigoris
I dunno about you but I find these here pretty cute and cudly:
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Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:52 pm
by NIRMAL2
As the saying goes in China "We'll eat any animal with its back towards the sun"

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:59 pm
by lowlydog
Yipes!! I might have to defend myself around here. :guns: :jedi:

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:18 pm
by Grigoris
There's a joke out there, I dunno if it will be considered racist (if people take offense to it please PM me to delete it) that goes like this:

What is the only thing with four legs that a Chinese person will not eat?

The table!

Seriously though. I spent a month travelling around China and was amazed at the variety of lving beings that Chinese use in their dishes. I even had the joy of living in a hotel in Guangdong whose entrance opened into a food market. I had the snake venders stall as the first thing I saw every morning when I left the hotel.

Animal rights are a bit of a non-issue in China.
:namaste:

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:04 pm
by Devotionary
zenkarma wrote:I gather the dish is called "Tiger and Dragon Locked in Battle" and that it also contains snake. Does anyone have the recipe?
As someone from Chinese descent, I actually find this quote quite funny/unfortunately true. :p

After all, chicken feet are pegged as "Phoenix Claws" in Chinese restaurants.

No wonder the Chinese also have vegetarian mock versions of everything! Mock abalone, mock duck, mock bacon, mock beef etc...

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:05 pm
by Music
I am a vegetarian, but is it wrong for a buddhist to eat all this? Even a buddhit has to eat to survive.

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:40 pm
by lowlydog
Music wrote:I am a vegetarian, but is it wrong for a buddhist to eat all this? Even a buddhit has to eat to survive.
Animals, even dogs :emb: exist in a constant state of generating craving and aversion, there is no escape for them. Every fibre of their body is vibrating with craving and aversion, and we wish to escape this habit. Ingesting these vibrations, what kind of vibrations will you have?

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:09 am
by Huseng
Music wrote:I am a vegetarian, but is it wrong for a buddhist to eat all this? Even a buddhit has to eat to survive.
Vegetarianism is a lesser of evils. If you're going to eat meat, why have a bias for cute cats while happily devouring cows and pigs?

In this case it seems people are eating the cats as a luxury (and probably as a conversation piece) rather than out of a necessity to survive, which makes the act even worse.

Re: Eating cats in China (not a joke).

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:09 pm
by Alex123
I wonder: What if rather than euthanizing bad dogs/cats, why not make meat and sell it? If nobody buys it, then give it to the homeless for free. That seems to be better use than just euthanizing them.