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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by dzogchungpa » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:58 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:18 am
Ayu wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:12 pm
Okay. Whatever. :smile:

I realize now, for understanding this joke one has to know these kids... How they enjoy to write something naughty and how they hate fish & onion. :lol:

So, it's not possible to translate anyhow.


.... edit: Now I see. The meaning is: "The one who reads this smells like fish & onion."
And perhaps understand German humor as well? :)

Apparently one of the shortest books ever written is titled "One Thousand Years of German Humor".
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:15 am

dzogchungpa wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:58 am
TharpaChodron wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:18 am
Ayu wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:12 pm
Okay. Whatever. :smile:

I realize now, for understanding this joke one has to know these kids... How they enjoy to write something naughty and how they hate fish & onion. :lol:

So, it's not possible to translate anyhow.


.... edit: Now I see. The meaning is: "The one who reads this smells like fish & onion."
And perhaps understand German humor as well? :)

Apparently one of the shortest books ever written is titled "One Thousand Years of German Humor".
That is history. It wasn't funny at all, not even for Germans. Also Germans suffered from the nazi regime - as people suffer from nazi ideology all over the world.

I hope, the world is able to receive the lesson where supremacism leads to. So, not everbody has to make the same mistake over and over again.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by TharpaChodron » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:51 am

Ayu wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:15 am
dzogchungpa wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:58 am
TharpaChodron wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:18 am


And perhaps understand German humor as well? :)

Apparently one of the shortest books ever written is titled "One Thousand Years of German Humor".
That is history. It wasn't funny at all, not even for Germans. Also Germans suffered from the nazi regime - as people suffer from nazi ideology all over the world.

I hope, the world is able to receive the lesson where supremacism leads to. So, not everbody has to make the same mistake over and over again.
Not sure if something got lost in translation, but I hope
it didn't come across like we were talking about nazis and making a joke. German dry humor is a silly stereotypical thing people find endearing, like loudmouthed Americans and rude Parisians.


the history of that time is very serious and I appreciate what the German people have been through. I also hope we, all people, continue to learn from our collective past mistakes.

Speaking of, tomorrow is Thanksgiving holiday here and a lot of my friends refer to it as something like "Take everything" day. It's become more and more about remembering US injustices toward indigenous people, and rightly so. I used to think humans would be smart enough to not repeat their mistakes, but I'm less optimistic these days.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by PuerAzaelis » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:03 am

dzogchungpa wrote:
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by kirtu » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:06 am

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:06 pm

TharpaChodron wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:51 am
Not sure if something got lost in translation, but I hope it didn't come across like we were talking about nazis and making a joke.
Not at all. :smile:
German dry humor is a silly stereotypical thing people find endearing, like loudmouthed Americans and rude Parisians.
Yes. I find them funny, too.
Just fun about nazis is somehow creepy. I don't know how it is in the US, but in Germany you can kill any online discussion by using a nazi comparison. :shrug:

the history of that time is very serious and I appreciate what the German people have been through. I also hope we, all people, continue to learn from our collective past mistakes.
I hope so, too. Today is the 25th anniversary of the burning of a house in Mölln by two young nazis. They killed a grandmother and two children just because they were Turkish. Heartbreaking.


About Thanksgiving I have no idea. I can't imagine what it means for Americans.
In my area, people are celebrating Thanksgiving in the churches. It is mainly an event for small children. So, they can learn to appreciate the food and that it comes from the soil, sun and rain... from God. :smile: Not many people celebrate this.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by The Cicada » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:11 pm

TharpaChodron wrote:
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"Take everything" day.
Happy Black Friday.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by TharpaChodron » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:39 pm

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About Thanksgiving I have no idea. I can't imagine what it means for Americans.
In my area, people are celebrating Thanksgiving in the churches. It is mainly an event for small children. So, they can learn to appreciate the food and that it comes from the soil, sun and rain... from God. :smile: Not many people celebrate this.
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Are the kids celebrating a version of American Thanksgiving at church, or it that a German holiday? People still get really into it, even the people I see talking online about "celebrating 500 years of oppression of indigenous people" still put a tagline on their posts: #stillgonnaeatthough :smile:

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:09 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:39 pm

Are the kids celebrating a version of American Thanksgiving at church, or it that a German holiday? People still get really into it, even the people I see talking online about "celebrating 500 years of oppression of indigenous people" still put a tagline on their posts: #stillgonnaeatthough :smile:
It's neither and nor. It is a Christian festivity in our calender but we don't have any holiday for it. We celebrate it Lutheran style without any commercial input. Christian kindergartens visit the church with the kids. They carry pumpkins and vegetables to the altar and the kids sing a song for the parents in the audience. :smile:
Most people do not even know when it is. I like it.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by TharpaChodron » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:03 am

Ayu wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:09 am
TharpaChodron wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:39 pm

Are the kids celebrating a version of American Thanksgiving at church, or it that a German holiday? People still get really into it, even the people I see talking online about "celebrating 500 years of oppression of indigenous people" still put a tagline on their posts: #stillgonnaeatthough :smile:
It's neither and nor. It is a Christian festivity in our calender but we don't have any holiday for it. We celebrate it Lutheran style without any commercial input. Christian kindergartens visit the church with the kids. They carry pumpkins and vegetables to the altar and the kids sing a song for the parents in the audience. :smile:
Most people do not even know when it is. I like it.
Sounds sweet. I'm sure harvest celebrations at this time of year are pretty universal and ancient. The Christians probably modified the tradition. On Sunday I'm going to a Handel's Messiah singalong, sort of another local tradition. I have a copy in German/English and was getting some pretty good laughs singing the German version poorly last night.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:03 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:03 am
.... On Sunday I'm going to a Handel's Messiah singalong, sort of another local tradition. I have a copy in German/English and was getting some pretty good laughs singing the German version poorly last night.
Yes, I find it also funny even if I sing German properly. We sang "Hallelujah" with our choir. There's so much comedy hidden in this pathetic piece. :) My faforite part is when the bases start with "And HE shal REIGN for..." and how the sopranos answer finally "... ... and he shall reign...". :lol: So funny.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:09 pm

Sorry: basses, not bases...
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:06 pm

Corrected version: not pathetic but histrionic... :roll:
Ayu wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:03 am
TharpaChodron wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:03 am
.... On Sunday I'm going to a Handel's Messiah singalong, sort of another local tradition. I have a copy in German/English and was getting some pretty good laughs singing the German version poorly last night.
Yes, I find it also funny even if I sing German properly. We sang "Hallelujah" with our choir. There's so much comedy hidden in this histrionic piece. :) My favorite part is when the basses start with "And HE shall REIGN for..." and how the sopranos answer finally "... ... and he shall reign...". :lol: So funny.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by TharpaChodron » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:55 pm

Ayu wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:06 pm
Corrected version: not pathetic but histrionic... :roll:
Ayu wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:03 am
TharpaChodron wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:03 am
.... On Sunday I'm going to a Handel's Messiah singalong, sort of another local tradition. I have a copy in German/English and was getting some pretty good laughs singing the German version poorly last night.
Yes, I find it also funny even if I sing German properly. We sang "Hallelujah" with our choir. There's so much comedy hidden in this histrionic piece. :) My favorite part is when the basses start with "And HE shall REIGN for..." and how the sopranos answer finally "... ... and he shall reign...". :lol: So funny.

The chorus parts sound amazing, a bit dramatic for sure. This could turn out very badly. I'll probably just mouth most of the words and pretend to sing. This was my mother's idea, after all. :)

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by Ayu » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:15 pm

I believe, everybody could be able to sing. Learning by doing.
I also think, singing is vibrating the chakras and thus it can be very beneficial, if the music is right.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by TharpaChodron » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:51 am

Ayu wrote:
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I believe, everybody could be able to sing. Learning by doing.
I also think, singing is vibrating the chakras and thus it can be very beneficial, if the music is right.
Agreed! I sing all the time, just not operatic style or in a choir. I look forward to giving it a shot.

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by dzogchungpa » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:52 am

I don't think I can handel this thread anymore.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by TharpaChodron » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:12 am

dzogchungpa wrote:
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I don't think I can handel this thread anymore.
Should we Bach it up and start over?

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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by dzogchungpa » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:32 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:12 am
dzogchungpa wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:52 am
I don't think I can handel this thread anymore.
Should we Bach it up and start over?

Touché.
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Re: Random Thoughts

Post by PuerAzaelis » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:52 am

Quit Messiaen around I’m too Bizet for this crap.
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