Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:21 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:12 pm
It is not relevant to discussions here.
Maybe not, but you're a semi-famous person, especially in the Buddhist scene, have written some books, done translations, so if not a "public" person per se, something pretty close where someone might want to write a bio / wikipedia article, amazon.com bio, etc one day, so was curious.
I discourage curiosity about my personal life.
DNS your not the only one that has wondered this. I have often thought Malcolm supported himself with Tibetan Medicine or teaching. Definitely curious hah!

Also Malcolm could you go a bit more personal into your practice and translation work, any translations that have really stood out to you and why? Things in practice that you wish you could tell your younger self.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:26 am
I appreciate your nomination, but I feel that my place has been considerably less well-earned.

I'm currently working two jobs, construction and at a bakery on-and-off.

I wouldn't consider myself a heavyweight of DharmaWheel. Perhaps I would have back when I used to fight regularly with DavidBrainerd over at DhammaWheel, but even then, that was mostly vanity work.

Most of my posts, actually, although I try my best to make them informative and useful, are actually a small part vanity work. If I try to be nice to myself about it, I would say 20-30%, but when I am feeling cynical, I wonder if it is not more.

I re-read them, my posts, back and back obsessively checking for spelling mistakes or ways I could have wrote it better. I actually limit my time actually logged-on to this forum, because of its tendencies to interact with my intellectual vanity.

I bet you didn't expect me to say that!
How did you become such a scholar on the texts! Lol

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:55 pm

DGA wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:29 pm
CedarTree wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 pm
I proposed this before but there was some hesitation I think maybe now might be a good time on the forum for it.

Astus

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Coëmgenu

...
thankful I didn't make this list
The periods implied you.... Start talking... Also tell Astus to get in here :tongue:

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by amanitamusc » Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:56 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:33 pm
CedarTree wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 pm
I proposed this before but there was some hesitation I think maybe now might be a good time on the forum for it.

Astus

Malcolm

Coëmgenu

and other heavyweights *Let's be honest we all know who you are lol*

Tell us about your practice history, what were some big stand out things that you think happened or insights or things you learned or experienced and so forth that helped bring you to where you are now. And where are you now? *Meaning what are you doing, studying, practicing, and how do you see your life and practice as well as others and others practices*

:)


I study Dzogchen. I practice Dzogchen. I translate ancient texts of Dzogchen. I take breaks for food, coffee, wine, sex, sleep, and tv.
May you continue, by all means. :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by DGA » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:02 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:55 pm
DGA wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:29 pm
CedarTree wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 pm
I proposed this before but there was some hesitation I think maybe now might be a good time on the forum for it.

Astus

Malcolm

Coëmgenu

...
thankful I didn't make this list
The periods implied you.... Start talking...
But I'm not really a heavyweight, am I? BMI of 27.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Malcolm » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:21 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm


Maybe not, but you're a semi-famous person, especially in the Buddhist scene, have written some books, done translations, so if not a "public" person per se, something pretty close where someone might want to write a bio / wikipedia article, amazon.com bio, etc one day, so was curious.
I discourage curiosity about my personal life.
DNS your not the only one that has wondered this. I have often thought Malcolm supported himself with Tibetan Medicine or teaching. Definitely curious hah!

Also Malcolm could you go a bit more personal into your practice and translation work, any translations that have really stood out to you and why? Things in practice that you wish you could tell your younger self.

I never discuss my practice. Long standing policy.

I am very enthused our translation (Zangthal Editions) of two major Dzogchen tantras will be released by Wisdom August, 28th, 2018.

https://www.amazon.com/Self-Arisen-Vidy ... isen+vidyā
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by PuerAzaelis » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:31 pm

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Generally, enjoyment of speech is the gateway to poor [results]. So it becomes the foundation for generating all negative emotional states. Jampel Pawo, The Certainty of the Diamond Mind

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Coëmgenu » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:47 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm
Coëmgenu wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:26 am
I appreciate your nomination, but I feel that my place has been considerably less well-earned.

I'm currently working two jobs, construction and at a bakery on-and-off.

I wouldn't consider myself a heavyweight of DharmaWheel. Perhaps I would have back when I used to fight regularly with DavidBrainerd over at DhammaWheel, but even then, that was mostly vanity work.

Most of my posts, actually, although I try my best to make them informative and useful, are actually a small part vanity work. If I try to be nice to myself about it, I would say 20-30%, but when I am feeling cynical, I wonder if it is not more.

I re-read them, my posts, back and back obsessively checking for spelling mistakes or ways I could have wrote it better. I actually limit my time actually logged-on to this forum, because of its tendencies to interact with my intellectual vanity.

I bet you didn't expect me to say that!
How did you become such a scholar on the texts! Lol
The internet!

I also don't think I am a scholar concerning these texts. For instance, I don't think I could get published. I don't have any qualifications. I am teaching myself Chinese currently with the interest of learning it as a dharma language, but I don't have any degrees or certifications for it.

I have a BFA with a specialization in Music that is almost complete, though. If that counts.
子念昔貧,志意下劣,今於父所,大獲珍寶,并及舍宅、一切財物。甚大歡喜,得未曾有。
The son thought of past poverty, outlook humble, now having from father a treasure harvest, also father's house, all his wealth. Great joy - to have what was never before had.

Τῆς πατρῴας, δόξης σου, ἀποσκιρτήσας ἀφρόνως, ἐν κακοῖς ἐσκόρπισα, ὅν μοι παρέδωκας πλοῦτον· ὅθεν σοι τὴν τοῦ Ἀσώτου, φωνὴν κραυγάζω· Ἥμαρτον ἐνώπιόν σου Πάτερ οἰκτίρμον, δέξαι με μετανοοῦντα, καὶ ποίησόν με, ὡς ἕνα τῶν μισθίων σου.
Your fatherly due I withheld unthinking, in evil I wasted your wealth; a prodigal cries, "I've erred, father, receive the repentant as serf."

妙法蓮華經 Κοντάκιον τοῦ Ἀσώτου

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Malcolm » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:56 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:53 pm
Things in practice that you wish you could tell your younger self.
Stay in retreat and never leave.
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by DNS » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:33 pm

conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:04 pm
I myself am losing weight, which is good news for many reasons. :smile:
In that case you are hereby removed from the list of heavy weights. Your new weight class is welterweight. :tongue:

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by conebeckham » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:37 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:33 pm
conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:04 pm
I myself am losing weight, which is good news for many reasons. :smile:
In that case you are hereby removed from the list of heavy weights. Your new weight class is welterweight. :tongue:
Yippee!
Now, can you do something about my graying hair? :smile:
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Mantrik » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:39 pm

Anyone with a BMI under 30 after Xmas is hereby disqualified as a heavyweight for simply not taking Yule Ganapuja seriously.
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by DNS » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:42 pm

conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:37 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:33 pm
conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:04 pm
I myself am losing weight, which is good news for many reasons. :smile:
In that case you are hereby removed from the list of heavy weights. Your new weight class is welterweight. :tongue:
Yippee!
Now, can you do something about my graying hair? :smile:
Sure, easy. Come on over and I'll shave your head like mine.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by conebeckham » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:17 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:42 pm
conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:37 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:33 pm


In that case you are hereby removed from the list of heavy weights. Your new weight class is welterweight. :tongue:
Yippee!
Now, can you do something about my graying hair? :smile:
Sure, easy. Come on over and I'll shave your head like mine.
Isn't it funny how arbitrary my attachments are? I am happy to shed some pounds, but hang on to my (graying) hair. Reminds me of Milarepa's "Finger sweater" which was meant for another member...... :smile:
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།


"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Simon E. » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:08 am

DGA wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:29 pm
CedarTree wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 pm
I proposed this before but there was some hesitation I think maybe now might be a good time on the forum for it.

Astus

Malcolm

Coëmgenu

...
thankful I didn't make this list

An omission in my view.
'We have a physical body with its various needs. Each day we have to eat, sleep, rest and so on.
This is our reality and we can't ignore it'

Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Simon E. » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:10 am

conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:17 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:42 pm
conebeckham wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:37 pm


Yippee!
Now, can you do something about my graying hair? :smile:
Sure, easy. Come on over and I'll shave your head like mine.
Isn't it funny how arbitrary my attachments are? I am happy to shed some pounds, but hang on to my (graying) hair. Reminds me of Milarepa's "Finger sweater" which was meant for another member...... :smile:


And another omission. One of the most respected posters among the Vajrayana members.
'We have a physical body with its various needs. Each day we have to eat, sleep, rest and so on.
This is our reality and we can't ignore it'

Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by dzogchungpa » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:30 am

What we really need is a DW rating system, kind of like what they have for chess.
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:27 am

dzogchungpa wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:30 am
What we really need is a DW rating system, kind of like what they have for chess.
IMO this kind of thing is toxic for discussion fora.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by liuzg150181 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:28 am

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm

I never discuss my practice. Long standing policy.
Personal policy or due to nature of secret Mantrayana? :thinking:

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by boda » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:16 am

dzogchungpa wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:30 am
What we really need is a DW rating system, kind of like what they have for chess.
I’m around 1500 in blitz matches.

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