Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Malcolm » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:56 am

liuzg150181 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:28 am
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm

I never discuss my practice. Long standing policy.
Personal policy or due to nature of secret Mantrayana? :thinking:
Both.
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by liuzg150181 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:58 am

Malcolm wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:56 am
liuzg150181 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:28 am
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm

I never discuss my practice. Long standing policy.
Personal policy or due to nature of secret Mantrayana? :thinking:
Both.
I see,I guess Vajrayana/Dzogchen should follow the same too.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by krodha » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:30 am

Any alleged Dzogchen or Vajrayāna practitioner who openly broadcasts their own practice, attainments etc., is someone who cannot be taken seriously, IMO.

Luckily people who talk about such things are few and far between. Seems most are with the program.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Grigoris » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:37 am

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:21 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:12 pm
It is not relevant to discussions here.
Maybe not, but you're a semi-famous person, especially in the Buddhist scene, have written some books, done translations, so if not a "public" person per se, something pretty close where someone might want to write a bio / wikipedia article, amazon.com bio, etc one day, so was curious.
I discourage curiosity about my personal life.
He sells his hot body for a living! :tongue: But he's coy about it!
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Mkoll » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:01 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:37 am
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:21 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm


Maybe not, but you're a semi-famous person, especially in the Buddhist scene, have written some books, done translations, so if not a "public" person per se, something pretty close where someone might want to write a bio / wikipedia article, amazon.com bio, etc one day, so was curious.
I discourage curiosity about my personal life.
He sells his hot body for a living! :tongue: But he's coy about it!
Nah, he sells drugs. Probably crack on the corners of his quaint N'eastern town.
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by dzogchungpa » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:13 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:37 am
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:21 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm
Maybe not, but you're a semi-famous person, especially in the Buddhist scene, have written some books, done translations, so if not a "public" person per se, something pretty close where someone might want to write a bio / wikipedia article, amazon.com bio, etc one day, so was curious.
I discourage curiosity about my personal life.
He sells his hot body for a living! :tongue: But he's coy about it!

I had thought this was common knowledge.
It takes a great being to be daring enough to cultivate a bad reputation. - Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:00 pm

Lol!

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Mr. G » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:26 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm


I am very enthused our translation (Zangthal Editions) of two major Dzogchen tantras will be released by Wisdom August, 28th, 2018.

https://www.amazon.com/Self-Arisen-Vidy ... isen+vidyā
Excellent! Can't wait! :smile:
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:43 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:56 am
liuzg150181 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:28 am
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:29 pm

I never discuss my practice. Long standing policy.
Personal policy or due to nature of secret Mantrayana? :thinking:
Both.
I'll just say this, if you are on social security or whatever Americans have for social assistance because you have devoted yourself to the Dharma and or if you make minimum wage or near minimum wage I think I respect you even more than I do now.

Takes balls and guts to walk the less trodden path and I think as many have noted we find incredible value all over the world in what you can offer sometimes in understanding and correction.

Sometimes your a bit of an ass haha but still a treasure source of knowledge :)

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by SunWuKong » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:51 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:33 pm
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I take breaks for food, coffee, wine, sex, sleep, and tv.
too old for sex, i hate tv, i wish i could sleep more, so: food coffee wine good for this old man
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by SunWuKong » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:53 pm

passel wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:46 am
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:20 am
Malcolm wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:33 pm
I study Dzogchen. I practice Dzogchen. I translate ancient texts of Dzogchen. I take breaks for food, coffee, wine, sex, sleep, and tv.
How do you make a living? Do you earn income from the translations? Do you make income from teaching? (just curious)
He gets a nickel every time someone quotes him on here. It adds up.
where do i send my nickel?
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Malcolm » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:55 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:43 pm
Sometimes your a bit of an ass haha but still a treasure source of knowledge :)
Was that absolutely necessary?
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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Virgo » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:22 pm

SunWuKong wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:53 pm
passel wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:46 am
DNS wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:20 am


How do you make a living? Do you earn income from the translations? Do you make income from teaching? (just curious)
He gets a nickel every time someone quotes him on here. It adds up.
where do i send my nickel?
I'll make sure he gets them. :woohoo:

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Astus » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:49 am

CedarTree wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 pm
Tell us about your practice history, what were some big stand out things that you think happened or insights or things you learned or experienced and so forth that helped bring you to where you are now.


I can mention some generic titles, but I'm not at the point of working on my autobiography.

- Nanquan's cat & satipatthana
- Nothing is still something
- One mind and no mind
- This bamboo is long, that one is short
- The mind cannot be found
- Karma is thoughts
And where are you now? *Meaning what are you doing, studying, practicing, and how do you see your life and practice as well as others and others practices*
This week I began to read The Great Commentary by Vimalamitra.
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Simon E. » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:51 pm

For what it's worth, and my knowledge of Zen is rather less than zero, the Zennist who most impresses me, and I find always worth reading, is Meido.
"Any major dude with half a heart
Will surely tell you my friend,
Any minor world that breaks apart
Can fall together again.
Any major dude will tell you."

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:02 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:51 pm
For what it's worth, and my knowledge of Zen is rather less than zero, the Zennist who most impresses me, and I find always worth reading, is Meido.
Meido should get in here too, someone give him a shout :)

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:03 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:55 pm
CedarTree wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:43 pm
Sometimes your a bit of an ass haha but still a treasure source of knowledge :)
Was that absolutely necessary?
Meant in the joking fun way. I think your awesome, that should be clear by me praising you in nearly every post lol

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by DGA » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:56 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:51 pm
For what it's worth, and my knowledge of Zen is rather less than zero, the Zennist who most impresses me, and I find always worth reading, is Meido.
Agreed.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by CedarTree » Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:24 pm

Astus wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:49 am
CedarTree wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:37 pm
Tell us about your practice history, what were some big stand out things that you think happened or insights or things you learned or experienced and so forth that helped bring you to where you are now.


I can mention some generic titles, but I'm not at the point of working on my autobiography.

- Nanquan's cat & satipatthana
- Nothing is still something
- One mind and no mind
- This bamboo is long, that one is short
- The mind cannot be found
- Karma is thoughts
And where are you now? *Meaning what are you doing, studying, practicing, and how do you see your life and practice as well as others and others practices*
This week I began to read The Great Commentary by Vimalamitra.
I think we may be practicing in a similar tradition. Only one thing you mentioned was unclear to me and I would like you to explore it a bit. "This bamboo is long, that one is short". I have an idea but I rather you show me your understanding and the origin of this teaching.

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Re: Dharma Wheel Heavy Weights

Post by Astus » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:07 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 5:24 pm
Only one thing you mentioned was unclear to me and I would like you to explore it a bit. "This bamboo is long, that one is short". I have an idea but I rather you show me your understanding and the origin of this teaching.
Master Yunmen quoted Dharma teacher [Seng] Zhao’s words:
"All individual entities (dharmas) are without difference — [yet] one must not stretch the duck’s [legs] and shorten the crane’s, level the peaks and fill up the valleys, and then think that they are not different!"

(Record of Yunmen, p 193, tr App)

"Within and without (the cosmos) is calm. Co-operation has ceased.
Thus, restoring the union, the Sage withdraws into silence.
Therefore a sutra says: 'Dharma do not differ (from each other)'. Does it tell us 'to stretch the legs of the duck and cut short those of the crane', to pull down the mountains and fill up the valleys in order to smooth out life? If only you can understand that the diverse is of the relative order then it loses its diversity. Therefore a Sutra says: 'Marvellous, World-honoured One, taking your stand in oneness you say that the dharma vary'. It also says: 'Prajna and the dharma are neither one nor two'. This we may believe."

(Chao Lun, ch 3, p 79, tr Liebenthal)

"He who holds to True Rightness does not lose the original form of his inborn nature. So for him, joined things are not webbed toes; things forking off are not superfluous fingers; the long is never too much; the short is never too little. 9 The duck’s legs are short, but to stretch them out would worry him; the crane’s legs are long, but to cut them down would make him sad. What is long by nature needs no cutting off; what is short by nature needs no stretching. That would be no way to get rid of worry."
(Zhuangzi, ch 8, p 61, tr Watson)
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"

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