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Cutting hair

Post by HandsomeMonkeyking » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:56 am

So I have been thinking of cutting my long hair ;)

Somehow it feels like it's time, on the other hand...

It made me wonder, why do monks have a shaven head in many traditions?
Does do anything with us psychologically?

Some folks told me that people tend to cut their hair during 'big changes in their lifes'.
In my case this urge to cut it also falls in such a time, funny enough.

I wonder: why?

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:04 am

HandsomeMonkeyking wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:56 am
So I have been thinking of cutting my long hair ;)

Somehow it feels like it's time, on the other hand...

It made me wonder, why do monks have a shaven head in many traditions?
Does do anything with us psychologically?

Some folks told me that people tend to cut their hair during 'big changes in their lifes'.
In my case this urge to cut it also falls in such a time, funny enough.

I wonder: why?
Long hair is more ethical and practical for lay people.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Bristollad » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:09 am

Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:04 am
HandsomeMonkeyking wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:56 am
So I have been thinking of cutting my long hair ;)

Somehow it feels like it's time, on the other hand...

It made me wonder, why do monks have a shaven head in many traditions?
Does do anything with us psychologically?

Some folks told me that people tend to cut their hair during 'big changes in their lifes'.
In my case this urge to cut it also falls in such a time, funny enough.

I wonder: why?
Long hair is more ethical and practical for lay people.
The benefit for me is that I spend little time worrying about how it looks, what people think of it and looking after it. Just every couple of weeks, a quick session with the clippers and I’m done. You do notice the cold though :tongue:

Why would long hair be more ethical for lay people or more practical? I first went to short hair as an adult because I found my long hair (it reached the middle of my back) highly impractical and distracting.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:31 am

Bristollad wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:09 am
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:04 am
HandsomeMonkeyking wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:56 am
So I have been thinking of cutting my long hair ;)

Somehow it feels like it's time, on the other hand...

It made me wonder, why do monks have a shaven head in many traditions?
Does do anything with us psychologically?

Some folks told me that people tend to cut their hair during 'big changes in their lifes'.
In my case this urge to cut it also falls in such a time, funny enough.

I wonder: why?
Long hair is more ethical and practical for lay people.
The benefit for me is that I spend little time worrying about how it looks, what people think of it and looking after it. Just every couple of weeks, a quick session with the clippers and I’m done. You do notice the cold though :tongue:

Why would long hair be more ethical for lay people or more practical? I first went to short hair as an adult because I found my long hair (it reached the middle of my back) highly impractical and distracting.
Less intimidating to men and women.

But if it's too long then you might make people nervous.

If it's distracting, man bun it.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by diamind » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:03 am

Do it yourself hairstyle will save you thousands. :twothumbsup:

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by justsit » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:58 am

Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:31 am
Less intimidating to men and women.

But if it's too long then you might make people nervous.
So short hair is intimidating?? Who knew? :shrug:

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Mkoll » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:12 am

HandsomeMonkeyking wrote:It made me wonder, why do monks have a shaven head in many traditions?
Does do anything with us psychologically?
I'd guess one reason is that hair styles can easily be a basis for conceit, self-aggrandizement, attention-getting, etc. Look at how embarrassed people can get when they start going bald...

Also helps keep appearances uniform.
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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:35 am

justsit wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:58 am
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:31 am
Less intimidating to men and women.

But if it's too long then you might make people nervous.
So short hair is intimidating?? Who knew? :shrug:
Straw man.

Longer hair means harder to fight.

Have you ever had your hair pulled? It hurts.

Also it attracts the kind of women assholes aren't looking for, so less perceived competition.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Bristollad » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:50 am

Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:35 am
justsit wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:58 am
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:31 am
Less intimidating to men and women.

But if it's too long then you might make people nervous.
So short hair is intimidating?? Who knew? :shrug:
Straw man.

Longer hair means harder to fight.

Have you ever had your hair pulled? It hurts.

Also it attracts the kind of women assholes aren't looking for, so less perceived competition.
Interesting idea - in some cultures, in some periods, warriors were associated with long hair, short hair with slaves; other times and places long hair was for philosophers, short hair for warriors.

Some women find long hair attractive, some not. Some men find long hair attractive, some not.

These days, I don't have enough hair to worry about - baldness does half my shaving for me :rolling:

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm

Bristollad wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:50 am
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:35 am
justsit wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:58 am


So short hair is intimidating?? Who knew? :shrug:
Straw man.

Longer hair means harder to fight.

Have you ever had your hair pulled? It hurts.

Also it attracts the kind of women assholes aren't looking for, so less perceived competition.
Interesting idea - in some cultures, in some periods, warriors were associated with long hair, short hair with slaves; other times and places long hair was for philosophers, short hair for warriors.

Some women find long hair attractive, some not. Some men find long hair attractive, some not.

These days, I don't have enough hair to worry about - baldness does half my shaving for me :rolling:
It's not an idea, generally woman can only win a fight with a man by attacking the testicles. If she can also pull your long hippie hair then it will make her feel even less threatened. This is science people. Women view men as potential predators. Actually I view men as potential predators as well.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by justsit » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:21 pm

Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm
It's not an idea, generally woman can only win a fight with a man by attacking the testicles. If she can also pull your long hippie hair then it will make her feel even less threatened. This is science people. Women view men as potential predators. Actually I view men as potential predators as well.
Well yes, balls are first, obviously. Then eyeballs, break the nose, trachea, knees, etc. - vulnerable spots that may actually dissuade an attacker. Pulling hair is waaay down on the list.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:28 pm

justsit wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:21 pm
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm
It's not an idea, generally woman can only win a fight with a man by attacking the testicles. If she can also pull your long hippie hair then it will make her feel even less threatened. This is science people. Women view men as potential predators. Actually I view men as potential predators as well.
Pulling hair is waaay down on the list.
That's because it's rarely an option.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Aryjna » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:48 am

Very short hair needs virtually no maintenance. What reason is there for having the bother of longer hair? I don't think there is any justification that is not to some degree motivated by attachment, except of course in the case of vows etc.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:49 am

Aryjna wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:48 am
Very short hair needs virtually no maintenance. What reason is there for having the bother of longer hair? I don't think there is any justification that is not to some degree motivated by attachment, except of course in the case of vows etc.
Long hair barely needs more maintenance.

I shaved my head for many years, now I have the Jesus look.

Also you can grow your hair and donate it, or sell it and then donate that.

Also during an apocalypse you'll have fibre for a loin cloth and a bow drill.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Aryjna » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:11 am

Motova wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:49 am
Aryjna wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:48 am
Very short hair needs virtually no maintenance. What reason is there for having the bother of longer hair? I don't think there is any justification that is not to some degree motivated by attachment, except of course in the case of vows etc.
Long hair barely needs more maintenance.

I shaved my head for many years, now I have the Jesus look.

Also you can grow your hair and donate it, or sell it and then donate that.

Also during an apocalypse you'll have fibre for a loin cloth and a bow drill.
I had long hair too and it was horrible. It probably depends on what kind of hair you have.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Bristollad » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:05 am

Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm
Women view men as potential predators. Actually I view men as potential predators as well.
Motova wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:49 am
Also during an apocalypse you'll have fibre for a loin cloth and a bow drill.
This seems a strange way to approach the world but each to their own :cheers:

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:39 pm

Aryjna wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:11 am
Motova wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:49 am
Aryjna wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:48 am
Very short hair needs virtually no maintenance. What reason is there for having the bother of longer hair? I don't think there is any justification that is not to some degree motivated by attachment, except of course in the case of vows etc.
Long hair barely needs more maintenance.

I shaved my head for many years, now I have the Jesus look.

Also you can grow your hair and donate it, or sell it and then donate that.

Also during an apocalypse you'll have fibre for a loin cloth and a bow drill.
I had long hair too and it was horrible. It probably depends on what kind of hair you have.
I have straight hair.
Bristollad wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:05 am
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm
Women view men as potential predators. Actually I view men as potential predators as well.
This seems a strange way to approach the world but each to their own :cheers:
Grow up.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Bristollad » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm

Motova wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:39 pm
Aryjna wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:11 am
Motova wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:49 am


Long hair barely needs more maintenance.

I shaved my head for many years, now I have the Jesus look.

Also you can grow your hair and donate it, or sell it and then donate that.

Also during an apocalypse you'll have fibre for a loin cloth and a bow drill.
I had long hair too and it was horrible. It probably depends on what kind of hair you have.
I have straight hair.
Bristollad wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:05 am
Motova wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 pm
Women view men as potential predators. Actually I view men as potential predators as well.
This seems a strange way to approach the world but each to their own :cheers:
Grow up.
you think it's immature to not regard all men as predators? I'm afraid I disagree.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:03 pm

Bristollad wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm


you think it's immature to not regard all men as predators? I'm afraid I disagree.
Strawman.

I think it's naive to not be aware of the potential of men and women. Everything is impermanent and suffering.

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Re: Cutting hair

Post by Motova » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:10 pm

Also Christians love Jesus, and if you look like him you have less problems.

:rolleye:

Trust me, I have put a lot of thought into this. For White men with straight hair, long (but not too long) hair is more ethical and practical (at least for Dharma practitioners).

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