Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

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Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Pero » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:43 am

So, how long till robots replace teachers too?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -streaming

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Fortyeightvows » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:23 am

Its worse than people who pay their servants to do their prostrations for them

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Tenma » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:24 am

Pero wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:43 am
So, how long till robots replace teachers too?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -streaming

Where's the bodhicitta? If there is no bodhicitta, how on earth are the dead even going to be liberated? Saying stuff won't help. There must at least be bodhicitta, even if one doesn't know any mantras or sutras. This is bad!

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Tenma » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:25 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:23 am
Its worse than people who pay their servants to do their prostrations for them
Are you being serious? That's an actual thing??!!!??

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by climb-up » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:13 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:23 am
Its worse than people who pay their servants to do their prostrations for them
Is that a joke, or is that a real thing?

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Fortyeightvows » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:18 am

climb-up wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:13 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:23 am
Its worse than people who pay their servants to do their prostrations for them
Is that a joke, or is that a real thing?
I know of at least one person who has done it

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by climb-up » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:05 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:18 am
climb-up wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:13 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:23 am
Its worse than people who pay their servants to do their prostrations for them
Is that a joke, or is that a real thing?
I know of at least one person who has done it
Wow!
I wonder how this person framed that in their mind that it made any kind of sense at all.

I actually find that far weirder than this robot.

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by liuzg150181 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:12 am

Tenma wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:24 am
Pero wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:43 am
So, how long till robots replace teachers too?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -streaming

Where's the bodhicitta? If there is no bodhicitta, how on earth are the dead even going to be liberated? Saying stuff won't help. There must at least be bodhicitta, even if one doesn't know any mantras or sutras. This is bad!
What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Fortyeightvows » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am

What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:
Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by liuzg150181 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:54 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am
What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:
Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
I personally think it is plausible if done by masters(already done by Dalai Lama,ChNNR, Garchen Rinpoche etc) and watched real-time,but an insentient robot on the other hand...... :shrug:

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Tenma » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:10 am

liuzg150181 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:54 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am
What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:
Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
I personally think it is plausible if done by masters(already done by Dalai Lama,ChNNR, Garchen Rinpoche etc) and watched real-time,but an insentient robot on the other hand...... :shrug:
No bodhicitta, then the empowerment is useless.

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Pero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:49 pm

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am
What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:
Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
That's not even close to this.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by crazy-man » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:43 pm

What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots?
The Robot Buddha, from the film Doomsday Book (Inryu myeongmang bogoseo) or Creation of Heaven (Chunsangui Pijomul)

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Grigoris » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:19 pm

liuzg150181 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:54 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am
What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:
Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
I personally think it is plausible if done by masters(already done by Dalai Lama,ChNNR, Garchen Rinpoche etc) and watched real-time,but an insentient robot on the other hand...... :shrug:
What about if they trained a monkey to do the service? Monkeys are sentient beings, so...
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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by The Cicada » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:26 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:19 pm
What about if they trained a monkey to do the service? Monkeys are sentient beings, so...
What if he turns out like the monkey in Kafka's "A Letter to an Academy?"

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Malcolm » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:38 pm

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am
What's next? Empowerment,direct introduction and pointing out using robots? :rolleye:
Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
Not from computers...
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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Tiago Simões » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:49 pm

This is like a person with back pains buying a robot and having the robot do the therapy. What's the point?

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Tenma » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:10 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:19 pm
liuzg150181 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:54 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am

Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
I personally think it is plausible if done by masters(already done by Dalai Lama,ChNNR, Garchen Rinpoche etc) and watched real-time,but an insentient robot on the other hand...... :shrug:
What about if they trained a monkey to do the service? Monkeys are sentient beings, so...
Perhaps if the monkeys had bodhicitta or compassion, it might work no matter how bad it goes whether the monkey lama throws an apple instead of pouring water on people's heads, reciting mantras as screams that no one understands, etc.....

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by liuzg150181 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:48 am

Grigoris wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:19 pm
liuzg150181 wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:54 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:33 am

Well alot of people on this forum advocate for empowerment over the computer so...
I personally think it is plausible if done by masters(already done by Dalai Lama,ChNNR, Garchen Rinpoche etc) and watched real-time,but an insentient robot on the other hand...... :shrug:
What about if they trained a monkey to do the service? Monkeys are sentient beings, so...
:rolling: :rolleye: :jawdrop: :jumping:
Hard to visualize and follow the instructions when the wouldbe guru is a monkey. :tongue:

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Re: Robot Buddhist Priests in Japan

Post by Fortyeightvows » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:48 am

liuzg150181 wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:48 am
Hard to visualize and follow the instructions when the wouldbe guru is a monkey. :tongue:
Tell that to Wu Kong!

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