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23andme also gives you Neanderthal DNA percentage. I got IIRC about 3%
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Thanks.
I uploaded the data to Ged Match (gedmatch.com) for free and their analysis was around 32% Neolithic, the rest being mainly Eastern Hunter Gatherer and Western Hunter Gatherer. They offer a range of tests and the results were broadly the same.
I think to obtain the Neanderthal I'll need another site like Promethease.
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Well that explains a lot!
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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Maybe that's why I ended up close to Avebury and Stonehenge!
I hereby rename my wife Wilma and the dog Dino.
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/01/ ... -heritage/
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Well, knock me over with a feather!
Results are in. As I anticipated, I'm 98.2% Europe, but it's the 1.7% that astounds me. Apparently, there's Pashtun on my Mom's side.
Mom's side Haplogroup is J2a, subclade J2a1a1. Lots of this haplogroup in Yemen!
Dad's Anglo-Saxon, no surprise.R-U106, R-L48. Germanic, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, etc......East Anglia, Scotland, a bit of North Wales, other parts of England. No Irish at all, it seems.
Still reviewing this, and I will send it in to GEDMatch, etc.
Results are in. As I anticipated, I'm 98.2% Europe, but it's the 1.7% that astounds me. Apparently, there's Pashtun on my Mom's side.
Mom's side Haplogroup is J2a, subclade J2a1a1. Lots of this haplogroup in Yemen!
Dad's Anglo-Saxon, no surprise.R-U106, R-L48. Germanic, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, etc......East Anglia, Scotland, a bit of North Wales, other parts of England. No Irish at all, it seems.
Still reviewing this, and I will send it in to GEDMatch, etc.
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It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
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"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
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I'm really surprised they could be precise about Welsh but not Irish.conebeckham wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:46 pm Well, knock me over with a feather!
Results are in. As I anticipated, I'm 98.2% Europe, but it's the 1.7% that astounds me. Apparently, there's Pashtun on my Mom's side.
Mom's side Haplogroup is J2a, subclade J2a1a1. Lots of this haplogroup in Yemen!
Dad's Anglo-Saxon, no surprise.R-U106, R-L48. Germanic, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, etc......East Anglia, Scotland, a bit of North Wales, other parts of England. No Irish at all, it seems.
Still reviewing this, and I will send it in to GEDMatch, etc.
Pashtun is very cool
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Well, finally bought a test today. Will be a long wait though before I get results (shipping from them to me, and shipping from me to them). I'll add results here when I get it done
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Interesting article in today's NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/heal ... alogy.html
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Thank you for starting this thread Mantrik. It's reignited my interest in family history.
I'm going to order the test through LivingDNA as all of the family connections we are aware of are in Britain. I'm most interested in our Jewish ancestry. My great grandmother migrated from Islington, London where there was a large Jewish community in the 1900s. Her documents also show a progressive anglicising of her name after her arrival in Australia.
I'm going to order the test through LivingDNA as all of the family connections we are aware of are in Britain. I'm most interested in our Jewish ancestry. My great grandmother migrated from Islington, London where there was a large Jewish community in the 1900s. Her documents also show a progressive anglicising of her name after her arrival in Australia.
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Yes, the police upload a DNA file they can check the database for close matches. As well as killers it could catch rapists, thieves......although of course they would have had to have sent in their own sample for ancestry or medical checks.justsit wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:10 pm Interesting article in today's NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/heal ... alogy.html
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I thought the police did a brilliant job. DNA evidence can exonerate people as well as convict them. Personally, I think the good outweighs the risks. And in the article it seems people are worried that submitting their DNA might cause a relative to get caught for their crimes. Like, really???justsit wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:10 pm Interesting article in today's NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/heal ... alogy.html
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Some people only want others to pay for their crimes and they themselves feel exempt from reproach, it's a pride thing the human has in its ignorant phase... I am constantly shocked by how many people share this ideology (if it can be called that). Like, really.TharpaChodron wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:34 amI thought the police did a brilliant job. DNA evidence can exonerate people as well as convict them. Personally, I think the good outweighs the risks. And in the article it seems people are worried that submitting their DNA might cause a relative to get caught for their crimes. Like, really???justsit wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:10 pm Interesting article in today's NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/heal ... alogy.html
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The Heart Drive - nosce te ipsum
"To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget." –Arundhati Roy
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Not necessarily, in this case, the police managed to track down the killer from 3rd cousins who had done so, then worked back from what? the great-great grandparents and narrowed it down using old fashioned police work. Big Brother, eh?
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I thought the police started with DNA from the crime or from a suspect, uploaded it and did a search for matches on GED Match, turning up his close relatives, which then led to him. Ah well.humble.student wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:35 amNot necessarily, in this case, the police managed to track down the killer from 3rd cousins who had done so, then worked back from what? the great-great grandparents and narrowed it down using old fashioned police work. Big Brother, eh?
Without his personal DNA, the DNA of relatives it does't pin it on him. Samples of his DNA from a crime scene would do so for sure.
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What people fail to understand is that the same information that may be used right now to track down criminals, could easily be used by an (even more repressive government) for less noble purposes. Once the information is in the hands of the state, whoever controls the state can use the information as they see fit.
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
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I don't think people fail to understand it, in my experience. Many are shit scared by it.Grigoris wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:07 am What people fail to understand is that the same information that may be used right now to track down criminals could easily be used by an (even more repressive government) for less noble purposes. Once the information is in the hands of the state whoever controls the state can use the information as they see fit.
Hopefully, some are deterred from crimes where it is hard to avoid leaving DNA.
I think the health and travel insurance companies will be first non-police organisations to exploit the system.
They will try to entrap people into allowing access, offering discounts etc. They will, of course, exclude your major risks, or offer cover at a huge premium which wipe out any discounts.
Then then will eventually move to make access to your DNA a precondition of providing cover.
THis will then extend to employers and government agencies for all sorts of purposes.
Just my guess at how it will pan out.
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What I meant was, the suspect himself didn't upload anything or do an ancestry check: the police did, using the samples from the crime scene, and then traced him back through his relatives.Mantrik wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:42 am I thought the police started with DNA from the crime or from a suspect, uploaded it and did a search for matches on GED Match, turning up his close relatives, which then led to him. Ah well.
Without his personal DNA, the DNA of relatives it does't pin it on him. Samples of his DNA from a crime scene would do so for sure.
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Cambridge Analytica and the election shenanigans aside, if this recent Facebook debacle has demonstrated anything, it's that this information is largely used to get people to consume more crap.Grigoris wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:07 am What people fail to understand is that the same information that may be used right now to track down criminals, could easily be used by an (even more repressive government) for less noble purposes. Once the information is in the hands of the state, whoever controls the state can use the information as they see fit.
As Crass once sang: "Big Brother ain't watching you mate, you're frak watching him."