Karma.
Why do you care?Why do some practitioners think and act this way?
Karma.
Why do you care?Why do some practitioners think and act this way?
Beer, believe it or not, this kind of thing was warned of many centuries ago. It's not Breaking News. Padmasambava and countless others warned about fake practitioners and charlatans. Machig Lapdron spoke at length about how people corrupt themselves, others and the teachings in the degenerate age. Your criticisms are valid but are not in any way news for most of us here.beer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:53 am"I see a lot of so called practitioners living in a fantasy. People play dress up and act like ngakpa"s or yogini"s. Some say they are dakini"s and wear chubpas and ornaments."beer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:20 am I see a lot of so called practitioners living in a fanttasy. People play dress up and act like ngakpa"s or yogini"s. Some say they are dakini"s and vwear chubpas and ornaments.. Others act wildly and say what ever comes into there mind. They think they arre being spontaneous and beyond right and wrong. They talk about emptiness and tantra and give out advice like they are some kind of authority. Others talk about their teachers as if they know the eachers mind.
[...]Whats the use of all this complicated philosophy and esoteric practice if you cant even be a good human being?
What is the cause of this?
Why do some practitioners think and act this way?
Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche on this topic:
Aren't we all of us ordinary beings living in samsara, a fantasy maintained by the ignorance grasping to the self of persons and self of phenomena? For some, wearing chubpas and ornaments will be bolstering the fantasy, but for everyone? Why would I think my own understanding of the fantasy is sufficient to be able to determine the level of practice of another?
Of course, depending on the depths of Beer's knowledge of Buddhism, maybe the answer he's looking for is tantra, which can crudely be described as using magic towards the aim of awakening.Bristollad wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:16 amAren't we all of us ordinary beings living in samsara, a fantasy maintained by the ignorance grasping to the self of persons and self of phenomena? For some, wearing chubpas and ornaments will be bolstering the fantasy, but for everyone? Why would I think my own understanding of the fantasy is sufficient to be able to determine the level of practice of another?
What I can do is observe my own shit, work on my own shit and help others to the best of my ability using as much wisdom as I can to try to not make matters worse.
Yes, though it's also a bit more complicated.The Cicada wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:49 am... Isn't Nepal a predominantly Hindu country, not Buddhist?madhusudan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:59 pmFrom my experience in Nepal I remember there being no right to medical care. It was pay upfront or no care.PeterC wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:13 pm There are many places where if you help someone who has suffered an accident, you run a material risk of being held financially responsible for the accident itself. I don’t know if that’s the case in Nepal but it’s certainly the case, or perceived to be the case in several other countries. So the response may not just be the bystander effect.
When a friend's mother took ill he gathered friends and family and we all pooled money together and went to the hospital with him to donate blood. Without money and blood, you get nothing.
Wow!DharmaN00b wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:02 pm "A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again."
Alexander Pope
"Others act wildly and say what ever comes into there mind. They think they arre being spontaneous and beyond right and wrong. They talk about emptiness and tantra and give out advice like they are some kind of authority. "beer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:20 am I see a lot of so called practitioners living in a fanttasy. People play dress up and act like ngakpa"s or yogini"s. Some say they are dakini"s and vwear chubpas and ornaments.. Others act wildly and say what ever comes into there mind. They think they arre being spontaneous and beyond right and wrong. They talk about emptiness and tantra and give out advice like they are some kind of authority. Others talk about their teachers as if they know the eachers mind. They think they have pure vision and devotion but it is mostly there own projection. People run everwhere after wangs but they dont even know what wang it is, and the comitments they have supposedly taken. So much effort is put into receiving teachings but people just blindly believe what is being said. People simply allow themselves to become brainwashed. Some monks do three yar retreat, serve their teacher and live in retreat places but the try to have sex with every western girl that comes to the retreat place for polgrimage. Othet so called Lama"s sit in palaces whilst beggars sit outside their palace walls People need to wake up. They need to look at themselves and there situation honestly. Most dharma practitioners struggle to be a good citizen, friend or neighbour. Whats the use of all this complicated philosophy and esoteric practice if you cant even be a good human being?