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TRUCK FUMP

Post by Mantrik » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am

Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?

I had wondered about a jihadists mowing him down with a truck, hence the title, but why ruin a truck?

Here's what the G7 should have ended up like :twisted: :

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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by PSM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?
To attain buddhahood ASAP.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Jesse » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:17 pm

PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?
To attain buddhahood ASAP.
I'll have to second this one, I dislike that man more than most trust me.. but why hold hate in your own heart just because someone else is an asshole? It only hurts you.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Norwegian » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:20 pm

PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?
To attain buddhahood ASAP.
Before that I would like him to be sentenced to forced labor, such as cleaning up oil spills, planting trees to combat deforestation, funding schools in poor areas, building libraries, and so on. And he will spend a lot of his own money on doing so as well. Because if tax payers can help him play golf in Florida he can help tax payers. Oh, and I would like for him to read a wide selection of books, important books, that would help give him a different perspective on things in life.

Then he can attain Buddhahood.

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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by PSM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:30 pm

Jesse wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:17 pm
PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?
To attain buddhahood ASAP.
I'll have to second this one, I dislike that man more than most trust me.. but why hold hate in your own heart just because someone else is an asshole? It only hurts you.
The kind of thinking behind this thread is pure poison for the thinker. The level of hatred which seems to be acceptable for this guy should really give a practitioner pause for thought.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Jesse » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:35 pm

PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:30 pm
Jesse wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:17 pm
PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm


To attain buddhahood ASAP.
I'll have to second this one, I dislike that man more than most trust me.. but why hold hate in your own heart just because someone else is an asshole? It only hurts you.
The kind of thinking behind this thread is pure poison for the thinker. The level of hatred which seems to be acceptable for this guy should really give a practitioner pause for thought.
not really. giving in to hatred, and anger is really easy, too easy. In fact it's the normal response, compassion, ease, and non hatred are actually the lesser expected response.

Truth of suffering.
The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Queequeg » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:38 pm

PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:30 pm
Jesse wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:17 pm
PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm


To attain buddhahood ASAP.
I'll have to second this one, I dislike that man more than most trust me.. but why hold hate in your own heart just because someone else is an asshole? It only hurts you.
The kind of thinking behind this thread is pure poison for the thinker. The level of hatred which seems to be acceptable for this guy should really give a practitioner pause for thought.
Catharsis can be so satisfying. But you have a point.

I'm reminded of the Emperor trying to convert Luke Skywalker - "Let the hate flow through you." Trump's trolling functions the same way.

We need to be dispassionate and clear eyed to successfully remove this man from office.
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

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There are beings with little dust in their eyes who are falling away because they do not hear the Dhamma. There will be those who will understand the Dhamma.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by PSM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:42 pm

Jesse wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:35 pm
PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:30 pm
Jesse wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:17 pm


I'll have to second this one, I dislike that man more than most trust me.. but why hold hate in your own heart just because someone else is an asshole? It only hurts you.
The kind of thinking behind this thread is pure poison for the thinker. The level of hatred which seems to be acceptable for this guy should really give a practitioner pause for thought.
not really. giving in to hatred, and anger is really easy, too easy. In fact it's the normal response, compassion, ease, and non hatred are actually the lesser expected response.

Truth of suffering.
I can't think of another person who has so many culturally acceptable two minute hates directed at them.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Jesse » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:46 pm

PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:42 pm
Jesse wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:35 pm
PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:30 pm


The kind of thinking behind this thread is pure poison for the thinker. The level of hatred which seems to be acceptable for this guy should really give a practitioner pause for thought.
not really. giving in to hatred, and anger is really easy, too easy. In fact it's the normal response, compassion, ease, and non hatred are actually the lesser expected response.

Truth of suffering.
I can't think of another person who has so many culturally acceptable two minute hates directed at them.
What do you mean by "two minute hates"?

But yes trump is the target of alot of hate, it makes me wonder... with that much hate directed at him, i wonder if it effects his mind? It has to.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by PSM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:53 pm

It's from 1984.
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Post by Rick » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:58 pm

I dunno ... it seems to me that if you find yourself in a hateful froth towards Trump it means he's winning. His goal is to keep pretty much everyone around him (with the exception, maybe, of his family) in a state of livid chaos. That's how he makes his deals. If he were a boxer, he'd come at his opponent with a wild flurry of punches and jabs, from all sides, with no apparent logic. To defend against this you need buncha focus and intelligence.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily ...

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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by PSM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:27 pm

Rick wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:58 pm
His goal is to keep pretty much everyone around him (with the exception, maybe, of his family) in a state of livid chaos. That's how he makes his deals. If he were a boxer, he'd come at his opponent with a wild flurry of punches and jabs, from all sides, with no apparent logic. To defend against this you need buncha focus and intelligence.
If you want to understand the man, read The Art of the Deal. It explains his approach to North Korea perfectly. Have a carrot, have a stick, play to the other person's ego and be prepared to walk away at any time. Also works for buying a used car...
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Rick » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:18 pm

PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:27 pm
If you want to understand the man, read The Art of the Deal.
Can I take a long disinfectant shower afterwards?
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily ...

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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by dzogchungpa » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?

I had wondered about a jihadists mowing him down with a truck, hence the title, but why ruin a truck?

Shouldn't that have been "TRUCK TRUMP" then? Image
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Mantrik » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:43 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:01 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?

I had wondered about a jihadists mowing him down with a truck, hence the title, but why ruin a truck?

Shouldn't that have been "TRUCK TRUMP" then? Image
I was trying not to write the obvious - 'frak Trump' - so transposed the letters a little. As you can see, the F-word gets autocorrected. ;)
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Post by Mantrik » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:54 pm

I don't think feeling a lack of compassion for Trump is too awful, because it does not denote a presence of anger, hatred or other strong negative emotions that would eat a person up etc.

Also, the presence of compassion for the vast number of people whose lives he affects may be stronger than a feeling of compassion for the Trump and his spawn.

In my case I admit to failing to find anything in the man to which I can attach a feeling of compassion, but it doesn't mean I hate him. Odd that some posts have leapt to the extremes.

His rebirth, as soon as possible, may indeed be ahimsa, and I don't need to hate the man to see that his absence form the planet would be a good thing, nor to find his humiliation attractive - hence the meme which sums up his G7 activity beautifully. :)
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by Tenma » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:04 pm

Norwegian wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:20 pm
PSM wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:09 pm
Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:47 am
Given a failure in compassion for the jerk, what would you like to happen to Trump?
To attain buddhahood ASAP.
Before that I would like him to be sentenced to forced labor, such as cleaning up oil spills, planting trees to combat deforestation, funding schools in poor areas, building libraries, and so on. And he will spend a lot of his own money on doing so as well. Because if tax payers can help him play golf in Florida he can help tax payers. Oh, and I would like for him to read a wide selection of books, important books, that would help give him a different perspective on things in life.

Then he can attain Buddhahood.
Ah yes. He will gain a lot of merit from it.

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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:17 pm

IDK, I have felt this way about our last administrations as well, they were just much better a PR.

In terms of negatively effecting the lives of people around the world, despite being personally abhorrent, I am not sure Trump approaches anything like the level of the W presidency yet, nor have we had anything like the NSA scandal under him so far. I give it time though, I'm sure he might do the same or worse, but it seems like you are reacting more to his (extremely lacking) personal qualities than anything else.
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Post by Mantrik » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:01 pm

Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:17 pm
IDK, I have felt this way about our last administrations as well, they were just much better a PR.

In terms of negatively effecting the lives of people around the world, despite being personally abhorrent, I am not sure Trump approaches anything like the level of the W presidency yet, nor have we had anything like the NSA scandal under him so far. I give it time though, I'm sure he might do the same or worse, but it seems like you are reacting more to his (extremely lacking) personal qualities than anything else.
Yes, there are always worse examples. I sometimes wonder if we put Putin, Trump, Un and others on a deserted island and let Lord of the Flies conditions prevail, how long it would be before Trump was eaten by the rest.

I'm not at all convinced that given the relatively unfettered power of (for example) Kim, Trump wouldn't also feed his relatives to the dogs, massacre all dissenters and starve his own people, but at the moment all he can do is destroy healthcare, encourage gun murders, inter migrant chidren in concentration camps and wreck jobs through crazy trade wars. Not a bad start, but he's not yet in Putin's league - probably because he is too dim to scheme and start wars convincingly, thankfully.
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Re: TRUCK FUMP

Post by PSM » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:48 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:54 pm
In my case I admit to failing to find anything in the man to which I can attach a feeling of compassion, but it doesn't mean I hate him. Odd that some posts have leapt to the extremes.
"I had wondered about a jihadists mowing him down with a truck, hence the title, but why ruin a truck?"
"The only virtue which cannot be faked is courage" - Nassim Nicholas Taleb
"Not practicing dharma is painful" - Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche
"We don't want to feel the weirdness of life." - James Low

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