So like you think the whole russian meddling on a massive scale is like some conspiracy theory...oki doke.Johnny Dangerous wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:46 amReally, where was it "proven"? And I didn't say it had no effect, I just think the effect is pretty marginal in comparison to things like HRC being a terrible candidate, the DNC leadership being careerist corporate sell outs and making exactly the wrong moves at the wrong times.
If you have some evidence that this stuff was somehow orchestrated by Russia, go ahead and present it. Otherwise, I have to conclude that those who claim Russia had some substantial role in the election are off the mark.
Lots of mainstream news is "fake" too, it's just by omission usually. Just witness the reaction in this thread about the US supporting the Saudis bombing Yemen, something that is really easy to find out, but simply isn't much discussed in mainstream news.Obama was the first to win through online campaigning... He did not resort to fakery....but hey the internet proves fakery is believable...So the genie is out of the bottle ...as for the masses ... "Let them eat Fake".
Again, if you have some substantial evidence that made stories like Pizzagate etc. somehow swung the election, let me know. personally, as disgusting as I find that kind of thing, I don't think it was a major factor.
Like i said
I cannot give you evidence on this...but i guess it just some coincidence for you as well...
We all see trump defending russia over and over ignoring the Crimea thing and Ukrainian revolts funded by russia.
how does that lame movie line go"The biggest trick of the devil is that people don't think he exists"
i know i know resorting to a cartoon to make a point....but think about it and what exactly you for some reason need to ignore and defend...from where i sit any way...