US diplomats fall sick in Cuba, China. A new weapon?

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US diplomats fall sick in Cuba, China. A new weapon?

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Post by Grigoris » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:02 pm

A new conspiracy theory?
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Post by Norwegian » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:12 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:02 pm
A new conspiracy theory?
It's not a theory, US diplomats have been affected by this in both Cuba and China now, with the same symptoms in both places. There's been a couple of theories presented, but no confirmed answers so far.

This article goes in depth about some possibilities, written by a professor of computing, at the University of Kent: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 84341.html

Another article: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 21919.html

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Post by amanitamusc » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:18 pm

Who would ever believe people harming others that is just :rolleye:

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Post by Norwegian » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:27 pm

amanitamusc wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:18 pm
Who would ever believe people harming others that is just :rolleye:
Yeah, humans have always been kind towards other humans (and animals) throughout time and history. No conflicts have ever occurred.

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Post by Grigoris » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:05 pm

Norwegian wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:12 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:02 pm
A new conspiracy theory?
It's not a theory, US diplomats have been affected by this in both Cuba and China now, with the same symptoms in both places. There's been a couple of theories presented, but no confirmed answers so far.

This article goes in depth about some possibilities, written by a professor of computing, at the University of Kent: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 84341.html

Another article: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 21919.html
:alien: If it is a sonic weapon then it would affect everybody in the vicinity of the target since one cannot focus audio waves to that degree.

From the independent.co.uk article you quoted:
"Audible weapons include playing Bruce Springsteen and music from Barney & Friends​ at very loud volumes to enemy troops or those undergoing interrogation. But Barry Manilow also drives teenagers from shopping malls."
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Post by Norwegian » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:15 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:05 pm
Norwegian wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:12 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:02 pm
A new conspiracy theory?
It's not a theory, US diplomats have been affected by this in both Cuba and China now, with the same symptoms in both places. There's been a couple of theories presented, but no confirmed answers so far.

This article goes in depth about some possibilities, written by a professor of computing, at the University of Kent: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 84341.html

Another article: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 21919.html
:alien: If it is a sonic weapon then it would affect everybody in the vicinity of the target since one cannot focus audio waves to that degree.
We may never know for certain what is the cause of these incidents. Given the reported symptoms, an audio related cause is likely – and if so, it is probably ultrasonic.

But the nature of ultrasound suggests that these cases are probably the result of surveillance rather than a deliberate “sonic attack”.
“Ultrasound is more directional than audible sound and infrasound. Ultrasound can be focused on a certain area,” says the University of Michigan report.
The theory that the incidents were due to malfunctioning devices and not staged attacks could explain why they only occurred in the homes of some diplomats and at two hotels in Havana, while not at the embassy.

“That cannot happen at the embassy in Havana because Cuban personnel are forbidden to enter higher floors,” where many diplomats have their offices, Cason said.

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Post by SunWuKong » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:03 am

Reportage of "sonic attacks" on USA embassies is ancient news going back decades. This one has the aroma of fake news, I wonder what FOX News or Alex Jones has to say about it?
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Post by amanitamusc » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:51 am

SunWuKong wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:03 am
Reportage of "sonic attacks" on USA embassies is ancient news going back decades. This one has the aroma of fake news, I wonder what FOX News or Alex Jones has to say about it?
Fake news is fast becoming the catch phrase, an easy out for much of the science
that in some way threatens the far right including climate change.

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Post by Grigoris » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:51 am

amanitamusc wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:51 am
Fake news is fast becoming the catch phrase, an easy out for much of the science
that in some way threatens the far right including climate change.
Thing is though, that there is actually plenty of fake news out there.
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amanitamusc wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:51 am
SunWuKong wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:03 am
Reportage of "sonic attacks" on USA embassies is ancient news going back decades. This one has the aroma of fake news, I wonder what FOX News or Alex Jones has to say about it?
Fake news is fast becoming the catch phrase, an easy out for much of the science
that in some way threatens the far right including climate change.
Top US security official targeted in Cuba Embassy covert ... - Infowars
https://www.infowars.com/top-us-securit ... -covert-at...

Sep 18, 2017 - At least 21 Americans have been targeted in the mysterious attacks ... U.S. Embassy in Havana was among those targeted by “sonic attacks,” ...

to Unravel Mystery of 'Sonic' Attacks on Diplomats - Infowars
https://www.infowars.com/u-s-officials- ... tery-of-so...

Sep 20, 2017 - U.S. Officials Express 'Urgent Need' to Unravel Mystery of 'Sonic' Attacks on ... affecting diplomatic personnel at the U.S. Embassy in Havana.”.

“Sonic weapon attacks” on U.S. Embassy don't add up — for anyone ...
https://www.salon.com/.../sonic-weapon- ... d-up-for-a...

Feb 21, 2018 - “Sonic weapon attacks” on U.S. Embassy don't add up — for anyone | Salon.com ... Alex Jones' vile take on Bourdain Rachel Leah · “No gays ...

The Alex Jones Show - Infowars.com - Alex Jones - 2018-May-23 ...
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/alex-j ... e/54604895

May 23, 2018 - Alex Jones breaks down new lawsuits waged against Infowars about Sandy ... in what appears to be a sophisticated audio attack using sonic waves. The American embassy's health alert instructed people to move away from ...

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Post by Nemo » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:24 pm

I was an army medic. I've seen a number of soldiers and contractors with symptoms of being hit with unconventional Russian weapons. It seems to cook neurons. The more dense the neurons the more severe the damage. So auditory hallucinations are common when your brain is cooking. The long term prognosis is terrible. Severe chronic pain, strong cognitive decline, autoimmune symptoms and chronic mild brain inflammation are the most common. Talking about it is a good idea. A lot of them didn't get pensions.

They can hit planes in flight with it so it is obviously not a physical sound. There are a few pet theories kicking around but the weapons would not be particularly hard to make. They are Russian after all and they aren't new. They are at least 30 years old. I suspect it's kept quiet so people don't make their own.

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Post by Grigoris » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:06 pm

Well, if infowars is reporting it, then it must be the truth...
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Post by Nemo » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:38 pm

Even a broken clock is right twice a day Greg. Having dealt with the people dealing with these injuries I hope it gets a high enough profile that they can get adequate medical treatment and pensions.

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Post by Crazywisdom » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:05 pm

It’s not fake news. It’s a genuine mystery.
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Post by Grigoris » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:05 am

Nemo wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:38 pm
Even a broken clock is right twice a day Greg.
Not if it is an electronic clock and the display is broken. ;)
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Post by Grigoris » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:17 am

Nemo wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:08 am
*media*
Complete and utter lunatics.
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