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Identifying two statues

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Greetings! I saw these two statues in the Rainbow Bazaar in Oahu. I don't recognize which buddhas or bodhisattvas they depict. The eight-armed statue appears to be holding a lotus and vajra, among other things. The red fellow may be in the Japanese style.

Thanks for your help!
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Monlam Tharchin wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:08 pm Greetings! I saw these two statues in the Rainbow Bazaar in Oahu. I don't recognize which buddhas or bodhisattvas they depict. The eight-armed statue appears to be holding a lotus and vajra, among other things. The red fellow may be in the Japanese style.

Thanks for your help!
The first one is Guan Shi Yin Pusa. The second one, it seems more like just any decorated Buddha. Nothing special.

Nice to hear someone in Oahu. I lived there last year in Mililani. :twothumbsup:
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I don't think the above is correct. Anybody have ideas? :shrug: They were in a market instead of a temple, so I wonder if they're not actually specific buddhas. They did have an actual Guan Yin and Amida which I didn't photograph, however.
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Monlam Tharchin wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:31 am I don't think the above is correct. Anybody have ideas? :shrug: They were in a market instead of a temple, so I wonder if they're not actually specific buddhas. They did have an actual Guan Yin and Amida which I didn't photograph, however.
The second-one could be a form of Amogapasha Lokeshvara, an eight-arms manifestation of Avalokitesvara. Usually, Amogapasha is depicted standing (not sitting in meditation posture) and holding different hand implements such as water vase, noose, mala, scripture, trident and lotus flower. However, there are Amogapasha images from the days of the Khmer Empire displaying vajra, lotus, conch and so on, in manner similar to that statue.

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cyril wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:59 am
Monlam Tharchin wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:31 am I don't think the above is correct. Anybody have ideas? :shrug: They were in a market instead of a temple, so I wonder if they're not actually specific buddhas. They did have an actual Guan Yin and Amida which I didn't photograph, however.
The second-one could be a form of Amogapasha Lokeshvara, an eight-arms manifestation of Avalokitesvara. Usually, Amogapasha is depicted standing (not sitting in meditation posture) and holding different hand implements such as water vase, noose, mala, scripture, trident and lotus flower. However, there are Amogapasha images from the days of the Khmer Empire displaying vajra, lotus, conch and so on, in manner similar to that statue.

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But why a Buddha-like figure instead of a bodhisattva figure? Unless it's just some sort of market Buddha that is stereotyped in a way with many arms or whatnot, I don't see it as accurate.
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My guess is both are Kannon.

The first looks like the style in which the gender is ambiguous. This evolved into a female appearance in China and Japan. The phallus looking object may be the tall vessel the feminine Kannon is often holding.

The second looks like an eight armed manifestation - Fukukenjaku.

See OnMarkProductions for more info http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/kannon.shtml

The discrepancy in iconography may be due to the "folk art" nature of the second image.
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Queequeg wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:52 am My guess is both are Kannon.

The first looks like the style in which the gender is ambiguous. This evolved into a female appearance in China and Japan. The phallus looking object may be the tall vessel the feminine Kannon is often holding.

The second looks like an eight armed manifestation - Fukukenjaku.

See OnMarkProductions for more info http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/kannon.shtml

The discrepancy in iconography may be due to the "folk art" nature of the second image.
The first statue is certainly Guanyin, but the hand implement is a ruyi scepter, not the bottle more commonly associated with Guanyin.

The second statue is a modern creative work, it does not follow any iconographic tradition whatsoever.
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