Announcement about the Closing of Sweeping Zen

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Announcement about the Closing of Sweeping Zen

Post by Mason » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:19 am

Dan74 wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:34 am
Lindama wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:27 pm
i c... for purity sake. nothing new under the sun.
Not sure what you want to say with this, Linda. Sounds like you disapprove but I'm just not sure.
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by jake » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:40 am

Mason wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:19 am
Dan74 wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:34 am
Lindama wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:27 pm
i c... for purity sake. nothing new under the sun.
Not sure what you want to say with this, Linda. Sounds like you disapprove but I'm just not sure.
https://zen1.space
Thanks. Has everyone seen the announcement about the closing of Sweeping Zen website?

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by boda » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:58 pm

jake wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:40 am
Mason wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:19 am
Dan74 wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:34 am


Not sure what you want to say with this, Linda. Sounds like you disapprove but I'm just not sure.
https://zen1.space
Thanks. Has everyone seen the announcement about the closing of Sweeping Zen website?
Hilarious, but good for him. :twothumbsup:

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:50 pm

boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:58 pm
jake wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:40 am
Mason wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:19 am


https://zen1.space
Thanks. Has everyone seen the announcement about the closing of Sweeping Zen website?
Hilarious, but good for him. :twothumbsup:
Given the givens, I can’t believe it stayed up as long as it did.
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by boda » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:49 pm

Interesting that a dude who personally interviewed teachers on the who's who list of American Zen, and also studied with with some of them, eventually came to the conclusion that they're all possessed by demons or whatever. What are we to make of that???

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by boda » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:15 pm

Speaking of Zen teachers and Zen Forum International (now zen1.space), I just read that they don't allow Zen teachers there now. What are we to make of that??? :shrug:

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:31 pm

boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:49 pm
Interesting that a dude who personally interviewed teachers on the who's who list of American Zen, and also studied with with some of them, eventually came to the conclusion that they're all possessed by demons or whatever. What are we to make of that???
I

Obviously, Zen is the work of the devil. Duh.
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 pm

boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:15 pm
Speaking of Zen teachers and Zen Forum International (now zen1.space), I just read that they don't allow Zen teachers there now. What are we to make of that??? :shrug:

New owner...new owner's rules. It's not been a popular move, but time will tell if it was a good one or not.
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by Kim O'Hara » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:40 am

KeithA wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:31 pm
boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:49 pm
Interesting that a dude who personally interviewed teachers on the who's who list of American Zen, and also studied with with some of them, eventually came to the conclusion that they're all possessed by demons or whatever. What are we to make of that???
I

Obviously, Zen is the work of the devil. Duh.
For who, like me, had not seen the announcement and are now curious ...

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/us-ba ... ite-closes

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by passel » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:36 am

He did a sesshin or two with Grace Shireson, maybe Joan Halifax as well. Total hack.
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:49 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:40 am
KeithA wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:31 pm
boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:49 pm
Interesting that a dude who personally interviewed teachers on the who's who list of American Zen, and also studied with with some of them, eventually came to the conclusion that they're all possessed by demons or whatever. What are we to make of that???
I

Obviously, Zen is the work of the devil. Duh.
For who, like me, had not seen the announcement and are now curious ...

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/us-ba ... ite-closes

:coffee:
Kim
I became friends with a guy I took precepts with. He later became a hardcore Christian who was regularly posting stuff on FB about Biblical literalism. It's a funny ol' world. There is an interesting saying about Christians, Buddhists and culture that I think about from time to time: "If you scratch a Western Buddhist, there will be a Christian underneath. If you scratch the skin of an Asian Christian, there will be a Buddhist underneath". I frequently find myself reading about Christian Mysticism these days. No real chance of me becoming a Christian any time soon, but I find a cultural familiarity that I can't deny. :)

Anyway, as an old friend used to say, just noodling. :)
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:51 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:40 am
KeithA wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:31 pm
boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:49 pm
Interesting that a dude who personally interviewed teachers on the who's who list of American Zen, and also studied with with some of them, eventually came to the conclusion that they're all possessed by demons or whatever. What are we to make of that???
I

Obviously, Zen is the work of the devil. Duh.
For who, like me, had not seen the announcement and are now curious ...

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/news/us-ba ... ite-closes

:coffee:
Kim
I hadn't actually read this until a minute ago. Poor guy...
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by Tatsuo » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:32 am

KeithA wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:49 am
There is an interesting saying about Christians, Buddhists and culture that I think about from time to time: "If you scratch a Western Buddhist, there will be a Christian underneath. If you scratch the skin of an Asian Christian, there will be a Buddhist underneath".
I don’t get it. Does that saying mean that these two religions are somehow connected to race? There are Asian Christians who were born into a Christian family who has been Christian for generations.. and there are second- and third-generation Buddhists in the West.

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by ItsRaining » Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:24 am

KeithA wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 pm
boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:15 pm
Speaking of Zen teachers and Zen Forum International (now zen1.space), I just read that they don't allow Zen teachers there now. What are we to make of that??? :shrug:

New owner...new owner's rules. It's not been a popular move, but time will tell if it was a good one or not.
What thought process could lead to banning Zen teachers from Zen forums?

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by jake » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:37 am

ItsRaining wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:24 am
What thought process could lead to banning Zen teachers from Zen forums?
No thought process.

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by Dan74 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:38 am

ItsRaining wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:24 am
KeithA wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 pm
boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:15 pm
Speaking of Zen teachers and Zen Forum International (now zen1.space), I just read that they don't allow Zen teachers there now. What are we to make of that??? :shrug:

New owner...new owner's rules. It's not been a popular move, but time will tell if it was a good one or not.
What thought process could lead to banning Zen teachers from Zen forums?
Hopefully clyde can answer this hmself, but one of the reasons he stated several times was to avoid having to moderate them.

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:06 pm

Tatsuo wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:32 am
KeithA wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:49 am
There is an interesting saying about Christians, Buddhists and culture that I think about from time to time: "If you scratch a Western Buddhist, there will be a Christian underneath. If you scratch the skin of an Asian Christian, there will be a Buddhist underneath".
I don’t get it. Does that saying mean that these two religions are somehow connected to race? There are Asian Christians who were born into a Christian family who has been Christian for generations.. and there are second- and third-generation Buddhists in the West.
It’s just a reflection on general cultural influences. Of course, there are exceptions. My son is a second generation Buddhist and looks very similar to the guy in the goofy robe over to the left. Feel free to disregard it, friend. I wasn’t looking for a debate. :yinyang:
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by KeithA » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:12 pm

jake wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:37 am
ItsRaining wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:24 am
What thought process could lead to banning Zen teachers from Zen forums?
No thought process.
Actually, I know for sure the owner put a tremendous amount of thought into it. This included conversations with the Teachers that were part of the forum. Again, only time will tell if it was a wise choice.

IMHO, Zen just doesn’t work well in a discussion forum, unless the topic is scandalous. To get the desired type of conversation, you have to keep kicking out the people who don’t discuss topics in the fashion the owners want. That will just lead to crickets.
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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by zenman » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:20 pm

KeithA wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:34 pm
boda wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:15 pm
Speaking of Zen teachers and Zen Forum International (now zen1.space), I just read that they don't allow Zen teachers there now. What are we to make of that??? :shrug:

New owner...new owner's rules. It's not been a popular move, but time will tell if it was a good one or not.
Before the teachers were banned there was maybe 6 people writing there. After banning them, there's 4. Somehow I don't feel this move was very relevant at this moment.

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Re: Zen Forum International status

Post by 明安 Myoan » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:31 pm

May he perfect the roots of virtue.
With a heart wandering in ignorance down this path and that, to guide me I simply say Namu-Amida-Butsu. -- Ippen

The Fundamental Vow [of Amitabha Buddha] is just for such people as woodcutters and grassgatherers, vegetable pickers, drawers of water and the like, illiterate folk who merely recite the Buddha's name wholeheartedly, confident that as a result of saying "Namu Amida Butsu" they will be born into the western land. -- Master Hōnen

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