SteRo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:47 pm
Belief - from my perspective - means imputing truth to the object believed in. So I don't say that from belief. Maybe 'faith in the appropriate linguistic expression' does apply. Truth cannot be experienced because it is a formation of ignorance. So experiencing truth is experiencing ignorance.
Hmm, I think this sentence "Truth cannot be experienced because it is a formation of ignorance" is a very dangerous statement, especially if applied too broadly. Because it would imply nothing in this physical world is true, no practices nor teachings would have any truth to it, and life on Earth / Saha World would have no meaning at all - leading to hopeless total nihilism.
If you mean this statement only applies to "blind faiths" that demands "total obedience without question", then I would agree - there is no point in such "blind faith" practices, it would be just ignorance and tyrannical slavery.
But in my view, this statement does not apply towards Buddhist practices. Because there definitely are noble beneficial purposes and results in doing so, with direct results one can directly experience and observe and know right away as the actual truth in reality. Such as ethics and towards lessening & eliminating the 3 root poisons (greed, hatred & ignorance), developing 8-fold noble path skills to beneficially help others and the temporary "self", meditations/calming of the mind for better health.... etc.
And hopefully some beneficial lessons, and maybe even skills, can be taken beyond death - this actually helps at least partially explain the difference in personalities right at childhood for different people etc.
Perhaps a better approach is: don't hold any presumptions beliefs and assumptions, then the truth shall gradually reveal itself.
And I think the more correct description is that this reality and this life is only "temporarily true". This world will not be true to the dead & deceased, but it is still truthful at least to those who are living. Best to move out completely out of Samsara then, to avoid pointless loops filled with sufferings!