What are you doing about the coronavirus?

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:05 pm

The pressure to get China back to work after the coronavirus shutdown is resurrecting an old temptation: doctoring data so it shows senior officials what they want to see.

This phenomenon is playing out in Zhejiang province, an industrial hub on the east coast, in the form of electricity usage. At least three cities there have given local factories targets to hit for power consumption because they’re using the data to show a resurgence in production, according to people familiar with the matter. That’s prompted some businesses to run machinery even as their plants remain empty, the people said.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -fake-data
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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by jake » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:10 pm

Friends, it is important that we keep this thread as fact-based as possible. You need to cite sources and not just repeat rumors or make vague references to "reports." Providing links to sources in your posts helps all of us make wise choices and stay healthy. Posts that do not provide back-up info, links to reports, or are utilising less-than-accurate media (e.g. toothpaste stops the virus) will be removed. Thank you.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:20 pm

To prevent coronavirus, BA pharmacy students produce gel alcohol and distribute it free at an institution
Initiative started from the lack of the product in Feira de Santana pharmacies. Bahian city has the highest number of confirmed cases by Sesab.
https://g1.globo.com/ba/bahia/noticia/2 ... icao.ghtml

Ambev will produce 500 thousand units of gel alcohol to donate to public hospitals
The company will use the brewery line in Piraí, in Rio de Janeiro, to produce ethanol and 500 thousand packages
https://epocanegocios.globo.com/Empresa ... licos.html

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Fortyeightvows » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am

Lucas Oliveira wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:20 pm
To prevent coronavirus, BA pharmacy students produce gel alcohol and distribute it free at an institution
Initiative started from the lack of the product in Feira de Santana pharmacies. Bahian city has the highest number of confirmed cases by Sesab.
https://g1.globo.com/ba/bahia/noticia/2 ... icao.ghtml

Ambev will produce 500 thousand units of gel alcohol to donate to public hospitals
The company will use the brewery line in Piraí, in Rio de Janeiro, to produce ethanol and 500 thousand packages
https://epocanegocios.globo.com/Empresa ... licos.html
What makes 'gel alcohol' better than regular liquid alcohol ?

One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:57 pm

Wuhan, China, confirms only 1 new coronavirus case for 2nd straight day; Every European country confirms cases
https://abc7ny.com/health/wuhan-china-c ... y/6024070/

China reports 1 new domestic Covid-19 case, 20 imported cases
https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020 ... rted-cases


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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:02 pm

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am
Lucas Oliveira wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:20 pm
To prevent coronavirus, BA pharmacy students produce gel alcohol and distribute it free at an institution
Initiative started from the lack of the product in Feira de Santana pharmacies. Bahian city has the highest number of confirmed cases by Sesab.
https://g1.globo.com/ba/bahia/noticia/2 ... icao.ghtml

Ambev will produce 500 thousand units of gel alcohol to donate to public hospitals
The company will use the brewery line in Piraí, in Rio de Janeiro, to produce ethanol and 500 thousand packages
https://epocanegocios.globo.com/Empresa ... licos.html
What makes 'gel alcohol' better than regular liquid alcohol ?

One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.
the advantage of alcool gel is that it does not dry out the skin a lot...

Hand sanitizer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_sanitizer

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Malcolm » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:33 pm

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am


One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.
Maybe. There is no hard data on hand sanitizers.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Fortyeightvows » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:34 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:33 pm
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am
One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.
Maybe. There is no hard data on hand sanitizers.
She was just talking about regular liquid alcohol

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Nemo » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:40 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:33 pm
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am


One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.
Maybe. There is no hard data on hand sanitizers.
Soap works great on viruses. It inactivates them.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Malcolm » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 pm

Nemo wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:40 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:33 pm
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am


One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.
Maybe. There is no hard data on hand sanitizers.
Soap works great on viruses. It inactivates them.
Yup, that is true. There is hard data for that.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Malcolm » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:00 pm

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:34 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:33 pm
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:47 am
One lady I met at the store told me that she works for a hospital and that it should be at least 70 or 75 percent to work.
Maybe. There is no hard data on hand sanitizers.
She was just talking about regular liquid alcohol
There is still no hard data on that. Like Nemo pointed out, soap is more reliable.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Virgo » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:50 pm

I personally use hand sanitizers as well as soap, but like Nemo and Malcolm pointed out, the hard science says that soap is very reliable.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:48 am

These U.K And U.S. Distilleries Are Making And Donating Hand Sanitizer
https://www.forbes.com/sites/felipeschr ... a604c87bc9

Coronavirus: Gin distilleries switch to make hand sanitiser
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-51927519

Dundee distillery switches production from gin to hand sanitiser
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-ta ... l-51928392

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Virgo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm

According to the WHO advil and other ibuprofin may be an aggravting factor in COVID-19:

https://news.yahoo.com/avoid-taking-ibu ... 07508.html

Just a note: there doesn't seem to be any concrete explanation at the moment as to why this may be the case, but this does come form health officials.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Simon E. » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:09 pm

On the lighter side someone has just tweeted “My wife has ensured my full self -isolation by locking me in the shed. And I don’t even HAVE coronavirus!”.
“You don’t know it. You just know about it. That is not the same thing.”

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Malcolm » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm

Virgo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm
According to the WHO advil and other ibuprofin may be an aggravting factor in COVID-19:

https://news.yahoo.com/avoid-taking-ibu ... 07508.html

Just a note: there doesn't seem to be any concrete explanation at the moment as to why this may be the case, but this does come form health officials.

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It is fairly well known that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories mildly compromise the immune response.

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Norwegian » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:12 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm
Virgo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm
According to the WHO advil and other ibuprofin may be an aggravting factor in COVID-19:

https://news.yahoo.com/avoid-taking-ibu ... 07508.html

Just a note: there doesn't seem to be any concrete explanation at the moment as to why this may be the case, but this does come form health officials.

Virgo
It is fairly well known that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories mildly compromise the immune response.
Yep. Another doctor commenting on this news suggested that corticosteroids like Prednisolone should also be avoided in the same context, for the same reasons.
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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Dan74 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:17 pm

Norwegian wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:12 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm
Virgo wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm
According to the WHO advil and other ibuprofin may be an aggravting factor in COVID-19:

https://news.yahoo.com/avoid-taking-ibu ... 07508.html

Just a note: there doesn't seem to be any concrete explanation at the moment as to why this may be the case, but this does come form health officials.

Virgo
It is fairly well known that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories mildly compromise the immune response.
Yep. Another doctor commenting on this news suggested that corticosteroids like Prednisolone should also be avoided in the same context, for the same reasons.
I am completely guessing at any connection here, but it did remind me of Reye Syndrome:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reye_syndrome

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Re: What are you doing about the coronavirus?

Post by Malcolm » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:22 pm

Dan74 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:17 pm
Norwegian wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:12 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm


It is fairly well known that non-steroidal anti-inflammatories mildly compromise the immune response.
Yep. Another doctor commenting on this news suggested that corticosteroids like Prednisolone should also be avoided in the same context, for the same reasons.
I am completely guessing at any connection here, but it did remind me of Reye Syndrome:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reye_syndrome
This also means that Chinese licorice too should probably be avoided, as well as turmeric in large quantities, and so on.

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