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Angulimala Sutra

Postby Grigoris » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:44 am

Can anybody point me in the direction of a decent electronic version of the Mahayana Angulimala Sutra?

I am having real difficulties finding one.

Thanks (in advance)!
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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby Su DongPo » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:34 pm

I am searching, but no luck yet. :shrug:

Here's a video to keep you occupied in the meantime --

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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby Su DongPo » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:49 pm

Greg,

It is NOT easy to find. This is Stephen Hodge's translation.

This is tathagatagarbha16/index.html ; change to tathagatagarbha17/index.html etc

Follow the link at the bottom

http://www.webspawner.com/users/tathaga ... index.html

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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby WuMing » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:40 pm

Grigoris wrote:Can anybody point me in the direction of a decent electronic version of the Mahayana Angulimala Sutra?

I am having real difficulties finding one.

Thanks (in advance)!
:namaste:
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Sūtra of Aṅgulimālika translated from the Chinese canon T02n0120 by Rulu.

Aṅgulimāla asked in verse:

Mañjuśrī the Dharma Prince, you are foremost in seeing the emptiness of dharmas.
What is meant by seeing that dharmas are empty?
What is meant by seeing that their emptiness is empty?
Speak now to resolve my doubts.

Mañjuśrī answered in verse:

Buddhas are like the open sky, which has no appearance of existence.
Buddhas are like the open sky, which has no appearance of birth.
Buddhas are like the open sky, which has no appearance of form.
Dharmas are like the open sky, and are a Tathāgata’s wondrous dharma body.
Wisdom is like the open sky, and is a Tathāgata’s great wisdom body.

A Tathāgata’s hindrance-free wisdom cannot be grasped or touched.
Liberation is like the open sky, which has no appearance of existence.
A Tathāgata’s liberation is empty and nonexistent.
How can you, Aṅgulimāla, understand this?
今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
- Kūkai on the Philosophy of Language by Takagi Shingen and Dreitlein Eijō
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Śrī Singha said to Padmasambhava:
Since buddhas and sentient beings are inseparable and the same, it is necessary to respect all sentient beings as being on the same level with the buddhas. Can you?
- translated by Malcolm N. Smith

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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby Anonymous X » Tue May 02, 2017 9:42 am

Su DongPo wrote:I am searching, but no luck yet. :shrug:

Here's a video to keep you occupied in the meantime --

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In this oral interpretation, he seems to be talking about an Advaitin point of view, not a Buddhist. Where in this sutra does the Buddha talk about the reality of Atman?

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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby Admin_PC » Tue May 02, 2017 1:31 pm

Anonymous X wrote:In this oral interpretation, he seems to be talking about an Advaitin point of view, not a Buddhist. Where in this sutra does the Buddha talk about the reality of Atman?

Sounds like a specific interpretation of the 2nd fascicle...
http://www.sutrasmantras.info/sutra54b.html

EDIT:
The permanence of the body seems like fascicle 3:
http://www.sutrasmantras.info/sutra54c.html
The hungry ghost part is from 2nd fascicle, but not quite seeing the "unclean food" or "crow" reference.
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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby WuMing » Tue May 02, 2017 5:16 pm

Anonymous X wrote:
Su DongPo wrote:I am searching, but no luck yet. :shrug:

Here's a video to keep you occupied in the meantime --

phpBB [video]

In this oral interpretation, he seems to be talking about an Advaitin point of view, not a Buddhist. Where in this sutra does the Buddha talk about the reality of Atman?

Dr. Pages' interpretation of Mahāyāna, the Mahāyāna Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra, and his interpretation on ātman and anātman and tathāgatagarbha (you noticed where his interpretation is coming from or ending up, respectively) is very controversial and has been discussed before. So I would not give that much attention, it could end up in another useless discussion.
今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
- Kūkai on the Philosophy of Language by Takagi Shingen and Dreitlein Eijō
_______
Śrī Singha said to Padmasambhava:
Since buddhas and sentient beings are inseparable and the same, it is necessary to respect all sentient beings as being on the same level with the buddhas. Can you?
- translated by Malcolm N. Smith

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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby Malcolm » Tue May 02, 2017 6:39 pm

Anonymous X wrote:
Su DongPo wrote:I am searching, but no luck yet. :shrug:

Here's a video to keep you occupied in the meantime --

phpBB [video]

In this oral interpretation, he seems to be talking about an Advaitin point of view, not a Buddhist. Where in this sutra does the Buddha talk about the reality of Atman?



It is one of the ten tathāgatgarbha sūtras.
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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby Grigoris » Tue May 02, 2017 6:59 pm

WuMing wrote:Sūtra of Aṅgulimālika translated from the Chinese canon T02n0120 by Rulu.
Thank you!
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Angulimala Sutra

Postby WuMing » Tue May 02, 2017 10:48 pm

Grigoris wrote:
WuMing wrote:Sūtra of Aṅgulimālika translated from the Chinese canon T02n0120 by Rulu.
Thank you!

my pleasure!
今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
- Kūkai on the Philosophy of Language by Takagi Shingen and Dreitlein Eijō
_______
Śrī Singha said to Padmasambhava:
Since buddhas and sentient beings are inseparable and the same, it is necessary to respect all sentient beings as being on the same level with the buddhas. Can you?
- translated by Malcolm N. Smith


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