"All cognitions broght about by words are ultimately false"

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Re: "All cognitions broght about by words are ultimately fal

Post by hop.pala » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:42 pm

"No. 52.
A form seen from a distance
Is seen clearly by those nearby.
If a mirage were water,
Why is water not seen by those nearby?

No. 53.
The way this world is seen
As real by those afar
Is not so seen by those nearby
For whom it is signless like a mirage.

No. 54.
Just as a mirage is seemingly water
But not water and does not in fact exist [as water],
So the aggregates are seemingly a self
But not a self and do not exist in fact.

No. 55.
Having thought a mirage to be water
And then having gone there,
Someone would just be stupid to surmise,
"That water does not exist."

No. 56.
One who conceives of the mirage-like world
That it does or does not exist
Is consequently ignorant.
When there is ignorance, one is not liberated."


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Re: "All cognitions broght about by words are ultimately fal

Post by tobes » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:13 pm

Simon E. wrote:ALL cognitions. Including metacognitions about cognitions.
Yes. In what way was I denying that??


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Re: "All cognitions broght about by words are ultimately fal

Post by LastLegend » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:06 pm

Cognition is a donkey. Who say it is not a donkey?

Bodhidharma [my translation]
―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Re: "All cognitions broght about by words are ultimately fal

Post by Atanavat » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:45 pm

My two cents: "Knowing the path, is not walking the path" - like "Thinking and doing is not the same" those sentences are like words about words. By understanding the words, you can think "thinking about this does not show me what it really is, it must be experienced" so the words are helpful, in referring to themselves as being limited in conveying truth.

Our "western" science have already (a long time ago) progressed into the realms beyond words.
The Dharma of The Buddha is illuminating beyond compare, cold, diamond-hard and so very austere. It will be touched by nothing, but the strictest of reasoning and the deepest of contemplation.

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