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still new...questions on mindstream

Post by twiz » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:53 am

I'm so incredibly new to all of this. The more I learn and practice, the more questions I have.

How do you know the difference between a random/coincidental dream vs one with meaning. Is it possible for a lama/rinpoche who you may or may not know to enter your dreams? How would they do this? Especially one you have been in close proximity with, but never met.

I apologize if this is a dumb question. Maybe in time it will make sense to me. I've had what seemed like vivid dreams that included a rinpoche who gently introduced me to this path. Recently a dream involved a very high lama/rinpoche. I feel incredibly blessed. But also in my skeptisism I am trying to make sense of it.

Thank you

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Post by catmoon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:37 am

These things do happen. Keep your eyes peeled for an opportunity to meet this Rinpoche and if it arises, grab it.
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Post by LastLegend » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:47 am

I had a dream where everything suddenly became dark and there was no one around I was scared. I recited a Bodhisattva and saw the bright moon and image of Bodhisattva. Then next, I realized I was in a dream. Lucid dream.
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NAMO AMITUOFO (CHINESE)

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―I come to the East to transmit this clear knowing mind without constructing any dharma―

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Post by Andrew108 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:19 am

twiz wrote:I'm so incredibly new to all of this. The more I learn and practice, the more questions I have.

How do you know the difference between a random/coincidental dream vs one with meaning. Is it possible for a lama/rinpoche who you may or may not know to enter your dreams? How would they do this? Especially one you have been in close proximity with, but never met.

I apologize if this is a dumb question. Maybe in time it will make sense to me. I've had what seemed like vivid dreams that included a rinpoche who gently introduced me to this path. Recently a dream involved a very high lama/rinpoche. I feel incredibly blessed. But also in my skeptisism I am trying to make sense of it.

Thank you
They can't enter your dreams. You have to dream of them. It may be that you have an interest in finding out what this particular lama is about. So find out.
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"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.

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Post by Simon E. » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:18 am

Andrew108 wrote:
twiz wrote:I'm so incredibly new to all of this. The more I learn and practice, the more questions I have.

How do you know the difference between a random/coincidental dream vs one with meaning. Is it possible for a lama/rinpoche who you may or may not know to enter your dreams? How would they do this? Especially one you have been in close proximity with, but never met.

I apologize if this is a dumb question. Maybe in time it will make sense to me. I've had what seemed like vivid dreams that included a rinpoche who gently introduced me to this path. Recently a dream involved a very high lama/rinpoche. I feel incredibly blessed. But also in my skeptisism I am trying to make sense of it.

Thank you
They can't enter your dreams. You have to dream of them. It may be that you have an interest in finding out what this particular lama is about. So find out.

You have no idea whether they can enter your dreams or not.

I have very good reason to suspect that they can and do.
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Post by Grigoris » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:03 am

twiz wrote:But also in my skeptisism I am trying to make sense of it.
I reckon it is more important to try and make sense of your skepticism first coz it seems to me that this is the true source of your anguish. ;)
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Post by Jesse » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:24 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Andrew108 wrote:
twiz wrote:I'm so incredibly new to all of this. The more I learn and practice, the more questions I have.

How do you know the difference between a random/coincidental dream vs one with meaning. Is it possible for a lama/rinpoche who you may or may not know to enter your dreams? How would they do this? Especially one you have been in close proximity with, but never met.

I apologize if this is a dumb question. Maybe in time it will make sense to me. I've had what seemed like vivid dreams that included a rinpoche who gently introduced me to this path. Recently a dream involved a very high lama/rinpoche. I feel incredibly blessed. But also in my skeptisism I am trying to make sense of it.

Thank you
They can't enter your dreams. You have to dream of them. It may be that you have an interest in finding out what this particular lama is about. So find out.

You have no idea whether they can enter your dreams or not.

I have very good reason to suspect that they can and do.
They do. But we also have many teachers connected to us via our karma, so it may not always be the same one.
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Post by catmoon » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:17 pm

twiz wrote: Is it possible for a lama/rinpoche who you may or may not know to enter your dreams? How would they do this? Especially one you have been in close proximity with, but never met.


Thank you
Hmmm... I get this odd feeling that Malcolm would know the answer to this one. One sec.....





HEY MALCOLM YOU THERE?


Hmmmm,,, nope, guess he must be off journeying in the higher realms again. Drat.
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Post by Malcolm » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:27 pm

twiz wrote: I've had what seemed like vivid dreams that included a rinpoche who gently introduced me to this path. Recently a dream involved a very high lama/rinpoche. I feel incredibly blessed.
It means you should make an effort to meet this teacher.
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Post by krodha » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:32 pm

Simon E. wrote:I have very good reason to suspect that they can and do.
Some definitely can.

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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:33 pm

What does it mean if you regularly dream of teachers that you have received empowerments and teachings from, if anything?
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Post by twiz » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:02 pm

Sherab Dorje wrote:I reckon it is more important to try and make sense of your skepticism first coz it seems to me that this is the true source of your anguish. ;)
Point well taken! :smile:
Though I'm not sure if I am feeling anquish over it. More curious as to how/if/why it is possible. Investigating and hoping to gain a little understanding.
Malcolm wrote:It means you should make an effort to meet this teacher
That is not likely to happen. But one never knows.
My community was very fortunate to have this Rinpoche visit and stay in the area for awhile, as well as offer some teachings and empowerments. At one point I wanted to connect with him because we shared a similar traumatic experience. I was hoping he could shed some light on how he dealt with the aftermath in such a graceful manner. When I realized the status of this Rinpoche (remember, this is all pretty new to me...still learning who is who), I knew it would be unlikely to meet with him. Just observing was enough to bring about most of the answers I was looking for. And the rest of the questions, I now realize those answers are really inside me.

In the last puja he led, I somehow ended up being the only person in his direct view. This was the day after my dream. It was a very powerful few hours. I am extremely grateful to have had the experience.

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Post by avisitor » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:08 am

twiz wrote:How do you know the difference between a random/coincidental dream vs one with meaning. Is it possible for a lama/rinpoche who you may or may not know to enter your dreams? How would they do this? Especially one you have been in close proximity with, but never met.
I believe dreams are the minds way of making sense of our daily life and desires.
And that there are no random or coincidental dreams.
The meaning of the dream is a different issue (of which I know no answers).

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