No External Objects

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Punya
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Re: No External Objects

Postby Punya » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:53 am

conebeckham wrote:
Wayfarer wrote:Well on face value, that certainlyr is both incoherent, and also incompatible with naturalism, so it seems we have some hermeneutic issues here.


Hmmmm. It is coherent to me, in a sense. The Heart Sutra says much the same thing, frankly. Have you considered that coherence is a yardstick for rational, conceptual mind? Precisely the sort of think Nagarjuna, and the Buddha, set out to circumvent?


Well, this seems to bring us very neatly to the quote in Malcolm's signature because I would have replaced the word "circumvent" with "transcend". Could you please explain why the notion of transcendence is a problem Malcolm? I have the idea that by transcending the conceptual mind you would arrive at the primordial state.

PS "arrive" is probably not the right word but I can't think of a better one at the minute.
We follow a spiritual path because we want to defeat our emotions and attain enlightenment, and to achieve that goal we need discipline, guidance and the courage to confront everything we have spent many lifetimes trying to avoid.
~Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche

Punya
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Re: No External Objects

Postby Punya » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:51 pm

Thank you to the kind person who PM'd with a reply.

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We follow a spiritual path because we want to defeat our emotions and attain enlightenment, and to achieve that goal we need discipline, guidance and the courage to confront everything we have spent many lifetimes trying to avoid.
~Dzongsar Jamyang Khyentse Rinpoche


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