Copying sutras using one's blood

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Re: Copying sutras using one's blood

Post by Sādhaka » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:26 pm

A pinprick is not for example going to cause the eighth downfall (because for one, you're not doing it out of contempt of one's aggregates).

Therefore read the benefits of this Sutra:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/words-of-th ... dless-life


And:

emaho wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:54 pm
I've found this post about the tradition of writing with blood by Sam van Schaik

https://earlytibet.com/2012/05/03/blood-writing/
Sam van Schaik wrote:The text that is (perhaps) written in blood in IOL Tib J 308 is the Sutra of Aparimitayus, a very popular text in Tibet, on the visualisation and the mantra of a deity representing long life and rebirth in a pure land. In the 840s thousands of scrolls of this sutra were written at Dunhuang at the behest of the Tibetan emperor, to ensure his long life through the religious merit generated by copying the sutra. This manuscript is not one of those, and to judge from its archaic orthography and “square” style, may be even older than them. Still, the motivation for copying the sutra is probably the same. If it was written in blood, this act would have given a greater value to the act of copying of the sutra, and thus to the merit generated by doing so.

Of course if you have no interest in doing it, then you don't.

It could be a powerful way to accumulate merits and benefit others.


Sādhaka wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:31 am
The following would be Pure Land practice, and moreover consecrated by one's own blood by taking a sewing needle or blood lancet and mixing a few drops of your own blood into (preferably natural) ink (like J. Herbin; although any ink ought to do) and copying the following section of this Sutra:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/words-of-th ... dless-life

ཨོཾ་ན་མོ་བྷ་ག་ཝ་ཏེ། ཨ་པ་རི་མི་ཏ་ཨཱ་ཡུརྫྙཱ་ན་སུ་བི་ནི་ཤྩི་ཏ་ཏེ་ཛོ་རྭ་ཛཱ་ཡ། ཏ་ཐཱ་ག་ཏཱ་ཡ། ཨརྷ་ཏེ་སམྱཀྶཾ་བུདྡྷཱ་ཡ། ཏདྱ་ཐཱ། ཨོཾ་པུཎྱེ་པུཎྱེ་མ་ཧཱ་པུཎྱེ། ཨ་པ་རི་མི་ཏ་པུཎྱེ་ཨ་པ་རི་མི་ཏ་པུཎྱ་ཛྙཱ་ན་སཾ་བྷཱ་རོ་པ་ཙི་ཏེ། ཨོཾ་སརྦ་སཾ་སྐཱ་ར་པ་རི་ཤུདྡྷ་དྷརྨ་ཏེ་ག་ག་ན་ས་མུཏྒ་ཏེ་སྭ་བྷཱ་ཝ་བི་ཤུདྡྷེ་མ་ཧཱ་ན་ཡ་པ་རི་ཝཱ་རེ་སྭཱ་ཧཱ།
om namo bhagawate | aparimita ayurjnana subinischita tejo rajaya | tathagataya arhate samyaksambuddhaya | tadyatha om punye punye maha punye | aparimita punye aparimita punya jnana sambharo pachite | om sarva samskara parishuddha dharmate gagana samudgate svabhava vishuddhe mahanaya parivare svaha |
oṃ namo bhagavate aparimitāyur-jñāna-suviniścita-tejo-rājāya tathāgatāya arhate samyak saṃbuddhāya | tadyathā | oṃ puṇye puṇye mahā-puṇye 'parimita-puṇye 'parimita-puṇya-jñāna-saṃbhāropacite | oṃ sarva-saṃskāra-pariśuddhe dharmate gagana-samudgate svabhāva-viśuddhe mahā-naya-parivāre svāhā |


Make sure to have the intent of the Three Excellences or Three Noble Principles, and record it with your phone's video camera and post it to YouTube or any other social media to encourage others to do the same.
“...we should try to acquire clairvoyance. Without it, we are like a baby bird whose wings are undeveloped and has not yet grown feathers and remains stuck in its nest, unable to fly. Without clairvoyance, we cannot work for other sentient beings.” — Khunu Lama
“Just as a bird can not fly without both wings,
The welfare of others cannot be accomplished without the higher faculties of perception,
So diligently strive for your own wellbeing, whilst mentally considering the welfare of others.” — Longchenpa

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Re: Copying sutras using one's blood

Post by Aryjna » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:04 pm

Sādhaka wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:26 pm
A pinprick is not for example going to cause the eighth downfall (because for one, you're not doing it out of contempt of one's aggregates).

Therefore read the benefits of this Sutra:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/words-of-th ... dless-life


And:

emaho wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:54 pm
I've found this post about the tradition of writing with blood by Sam van Schaik

https://earlytibet.com/2012/05/03/blood-writing/
Sam van Schaik wrote:The text that is (perhaps) written in blood in IOL Tib J 308 is the Sutra of Aparimitayus, a very popular text in Tibet, on the visualisation and the mantra of a deity representing long life and rebirth in a pure land. In the 840s thousands of scrolls of this sutra were written at Dunhuang at the behest of the Tibetan emperor, to ensure his long life through the religious merit generated by copying the sutra. This manuscript is not one of those, and to judge from its archaic orthography and “square” style, may be even older than them. Still, the motivation for copying the sutra is probably the same. If it was written in blood, this act would have given a greater value to the act of copying of the sutra, and thus to the merit generated by doing so.

Of course if you have no interest in doing it, then you don't.

It could be a powerful way to accumulate merits and benefit others.


Sādhaka wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:31 am
The following would be Pure Land practice, and moreover consecrated by one's own blood by taking a sewing needle or blood lancet and mixing a few drops of your own blood into (preferably natural) ink (like J. Herbin; although any ink ought to do) and copying the following section of this Sutra:

http://www.lotsawahouse.org/words-of-th ... dless-life

ཨོཾ་ན་མོ་བྷ་ག་ཝ་ཏེ། ཨ་པ་རི་མི་ཏ་ཨཱ་ཡུརྫྙཱ་ན་སུ་བི་ནི་ཤྩི་ཏ་ཏེ་ཛོ་རྭ་ཛཱ་ཡ། ཏ་ཐཱ་ག་ཏཱ་ཡ། ཨརྷ་ཏེ་སམྱཀྶཾ་བུདྡྷཱ་ཡ། ཏདྱ་ཐཱ། ཨོཾ་པུཎྱེ་པུཎྱེ་མ་ཧཱ་པུཎྱེ། ཨ་པ་རི་མི་ཏ་པུཎྱེ་ཨ་པ་རི་མི་ཏ་པུཎྱ་ཛྙཱ་ན་སཾ་བྷཱ་རོ་པ་ཙི་ཏེ། ཨོཾ་སརྦ་སཾ་སྐཱ་ར་པ་རི་ཤུདྡྷ་དྷརྨ་ཏེ་ག་ག་ན་ས་མུཏྒ་ཏེ་སྭ་བྷཱ་ཝ་བི་ཤུདྡྷེ་མ་ཧཱ་ན་ཡ་པ་རི་ཝཱ་རེ་སྭཱ་ཧཱ།
om namo bhagawate | aparimita ayurjnana subinischita tejo rajaya | tathagataya arhate samyaksambuddhaya | tadyatha om punye punye maha punye | aparimita punye aparimita punya jnana sambharo pachite | om sarva samskara parishuddha dharmate gagana samudgate svabhava vishuddhe mahanaya parivare svaha |
oṃ namo bhagavate aparimitāyur-jñāna-suviniścita-tejo-rājāya tathāgatāya arhate samyak saṃbuddhāya | tadyathā | oṃ puṇye puṇye mahā-puṇye 'parimita-puṇye 'parimita-puṇya-jñāna-saṃbhāropacite | oṃ sarva-saṃskāra-pariśuddhe dharmate gagana-samudgate svabhāva-viśuddhe mahā-naya-parivāre svāhā |


Make sure to have the intent of the Three Excellences or Three Noble Principles, and record it with your phone's video camera and post it to YouTube or any other social media to encourage others to do the same.
The sutra itself says nothing about writing it in blood, unless I missed it. And the other quote says there is a single copy that maybe was written in blood, followed by a seemingly offhand hypothesis that maybe it was done to generate more merit.

However, I am not personally annoyed with this possibility. If it actually is a valid practice that is ok, but so far it doesn't look like it. The mere fact that it was done by a number of people in China, or Tibet (according to some of the other links posted earlier in this thread), does not make it correct.

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Re: Copying sutras using one's blood

Post by Sādhaka » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:25 pm

Well Blood Writing is apparently also found in the Saddharmapundarika Sutra and the Avatamsaka Sutra themselves. The way it is presented there though, is obviously only for high level Bodhisattvas, or just totally symbolic.

The way I see it, our blood is a powerful substance, and a pinprick added to ink can only be beneficial as mentioned in the above Sam van Schaik article, if it's accompanied by right view, rather than being some form of contempt for the aggregates or self mortification.

To each their own of course.
“...we should try to acquire clairvoyance. Without it, we are like a baby bird whose wings are undeveloped and has not yet grown feathers and remains stuck in its nest, unable to fly. Without clairvoyance, we cannot work for other sentient beings.” — Khunu Lama
“Just as a bird can not fly without both wings,
The welfare of others cannot be accomplished without the higher faculties of perception,
So diligently strive for your own wellbeing, whilst mentally considering the welfare of others.” — Longchenpa

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