The confusion is by so grounded experience of being
a conventional truth, which splits 'us' from nature; ultimate by which conventional cannot be rejected but is not "conventionality".
These two labels conventional and ultimate are only tools, to be able to help us to be nature and not to be the apprehended idea we have of 'us'.
A self on itself compares itself with other selves on themselves. When enlightened nature 'talks to us', as the way to reach us in our variety of dreams, there is no any experience of being a self on itself talking to another self on itself. By this compassionate blessing, we are invited to wake up, out of our-self- on- itself- dream. At least if we want.
Wake me up before you go, go…...Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche
said it is like being in love with all and everything (selflesness)