Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

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M.G.
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Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by M.G. » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:35 am

Something I've wondered.

How much continuity of identity, if any, do Boddhisattvas experience as between incarnations?

It's hard for me to imagine that almost all of the components of identity - memory, personality, cognition - arent devastated or obliterated by death, but then again, I'm not any kind of a yogi.

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Re: Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by Malcolm » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:38 am

M.G. wrote:Something I've wondered.

How much continuity of identity, if any, do Boddhisattvas experience as between incarnations?

It's hard for me to imagine that almost all of the components of identity - memory, personality, cognition - arent devastated or obliterated by death, but then again, I'm not any kind of a yogi.

Depends on how high. 8th stage on up, yes.

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Re: Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by Temicco » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:11 am

Malcolm wrote:
M.G. wrote:Something I've wondered.

How much continuity of identity, if any, do Boddhisattvas experience as between incarnations?

It's hard for me to imagine that almost all of the components of identity - memory, personality, cognition - arent devastated or obliterated by death, but then again, I'm not any kind of a yogi.

Depends on how high. 8th stage on up, yes.
Source?
"Deliberate upon that which does not deliberate."
-Yaoshan Weiyan

ཚེ་འདི་ལ་ཞེན་ན་ཆོས་པ་མིན། །
འཁོར་བ་ལ་ཞེན་ན་ངེས་འབྱུང་མིན། །
བདག་དོན་ལ་ཞེན་ན་བྱང་སེམས་མིན། །
འཛིན་པ་བྱུང་ན་ལྟ་བ་མིན། །

Malcolm
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Re: Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by Malcolm » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:16 am

Temicco wrote:
Malcolm wrote:
M.G. wrote:Something I've wondered.

How much continuity of identity, if any, do Boddhisattvas experience as between incarnations?

It's hard for me to imagine that almost all of the components of identity - memory, personality, cognition - arent devastated or obliterated by death, but then again, I'm not any kind of a yogi.

Depends on how high. 8th stage on up, yes.
Source?
This is the stage in which bodhisattvas attain power over birth. Source, Abhisamayalaṃkāra, etc.

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Re: Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by Temicco » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:08 am

Malcolm wrote:
Temicco wrote:
Malcolm wrote:

Depends on how high. 8th stage on up, yes.
Source?
This is the stage in which bodhisattvas attain power over birth. Source, Abhisamayalaṃkāra, etc.
Thanks.
"Deliberate upon that which does not deliberate."
-Yaoshan Weiyan

ཚེ་འདི་ལ་ཞེན་ན་ཆོས་པ་མིན། །
འཁོར་བ་ལ་ཞེན་ན་ངེས་འབྱུང་མིན། །
བདག་དོན་ལ་ཞེན་ན་བྱང་སེམས་མིན། །
འཛིན་པ་བྱུང་ན་ལྟ་བ་མིན། །

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Re: Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by ItsRaining » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:23 am

Malcolm wrote:
M.G. wrote:Something I've wondered.

How much continuity of identity, if any, do Boddhisattvas experience as between incarnations?

It's hard for me to imagine that almost all of the components of identity - memory, personality, cognition - arent devastated or obliterated by death, but then again, I'm not any kind of a yogi.

Depends on how high. 8th stage on up, yes.
Then what happens to Bodhisattvas on lower grounds? Say if someone attained kensho or a lower ground what happens to that attainment in the next life?

M.G.
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Re: Do Boddhisatvas experience a continuity of identity?

Post by M.G. » Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:03 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Temicco wrote:
Malcolm wrote:

Depends on how high. 8th stage on up, yes.
Source?
This is the stage in which bodhisattvas attain power over birth. Source, Abhisamayalaṃkāra, etc.
Thank you Malcolm.

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