Vipasyana Meditation

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Re: Vipasyana Meditation

Post by Malcolm » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:28 am

Anonymous X wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:32 am
Malcolm wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:03 pm
Anonymous X wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:02 am
And, why does no one here refer to the Mahasatipattana Sutta for instruction in Vipassana practice? The Buddha, in his own words, lays it out. Is it not the proper place to start to learn about it?

Wrong kind of vipaśyanā.

The kind of vipaśyanā proper to Māhayāna is referred to in the Akṣayamati-nirdeśa:

"The consciousness that perceives the entry into reality is called "vipaśyanā." So-called vipaśyanā is perceiving phenomena correctly, perceiving phenomena as they are, perceiving phenomena truly, and perceiving phenomena as not otherwise, perceiving phenomena as empty, without characteristics, without aspiration, perceiving phenomena to be unformed, likewise, nonarisen, unproduced, insubstantial, just as they are, pure, and as isolated. It is perceiving phenomena as unmoving, inactive, without self, wholly without grasping, inseparable, one taste, as the nature of space, and nirvana by nature," etc.
There are many suttas that say the same thing.
There are no suttas that say the same thing.
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Re: Vipasyana Meditation

Post by Anonymous X » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:17 am

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:28 am
Anonymous X wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:32 am
Malcolm wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:03 pm



Wrong kind of vipaśyanā.

The kind of vipaśyanā proper to Māhayāna is referred to in the Akṣayamati-nirdeśa:

"The consciousness that perceives the entry into reality is called "vipaśyanā." So-called vipaśyanā is perceiving phenomena correctly, perceiving phenomena as they are, perceiving phenomena truly, and perceiving phenomena as not otherwise, perceiving phenomena as empty, without characteristics, without aspiration, perceiving phenomena to be unformed, likewise, nonarisen, unproduced, insubstantial, just as they are, pure, and as isolated. It is perceiving phenomena as unmoving, inactive, without self, wholly without grasping, inseparable, one taste, as the nature of space, and nirvana by nature," etc.
There are many suttas that say the same thing.
There are no suttas that say the same thing.
I don't understand what you mean by 'wrong kind of vipassana. Why don't you start by explaining the difference between the two, and how what you quoted is different from the Buddha's original statement of 'seeing things the way they really are'. Otherwise, I cannot follow what you are trying to say.

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Re: Vipasyana Meditation

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:35 am

How about instead of that you notice the ' Mahayana and Vajrayana' caption on the forum, and look at the OP - where he specified he is asking about non-Pali sources.
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