Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

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Have you changed schools since joining the Forum?

No, I haven't.
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Yes, I have, but it had nothing to do with the Forum.
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4%
Yes, I have and I guess the Forum played a part. I changed from Tibetan to East Asian.
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No votes
Yes, I have and I guess the Forum played a part. I changed from East Asian to Tibetan.
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Yes, I have and I guess the Forum played a part. I changed from Theravada to Mahayana.
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4%
Yes, I have and I guess the Forum played a part. I changed from Mahayana to Theravada.
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No votes
Yes, I have and I guess the Forum played a part. I changed within Vajrayana schools.
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Yes, I have and I guess the Forum played a part. I changed within the East Asian schools.
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2%
 
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Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Dan74 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:40 pm

I was wondering if there were much movement from one school to another among members here and whether the Forum plays a part. Please reply!!!

Many thanks!!

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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:48 pm

For so many people I know, this would be a bit of a trick question.

I don't "do" Zen anymore, but I very much value my time in it, and if I found a Zendo with the right people, I'd be perfectly comfortable being there. It's the same within Tibetan traditions, I ended up preferring Dzogchen, but I still maintain ties to Sakya folks, maintain one of the practices I learned from them consistently, and very much consider them an important part of my Dharma education and community.

One can narrow down what one does, and still have an "open" view towards other Buddhist traditions as it were. I think the difference between a "shopper" and someone who is on the path is that they can see the difference between just picking up all these shiny objects, and never really doing anything with them, and actually making use of the opportunities their karma has brought them. I don't want to discard my experiences, but integrate them.

I thought Dzogchen was nonsense when I idirst read of it, and I received advice from this forum in other regards that was actually often contrary to what my teachers and mentors have say. Ultimately though it was a worthwhile journey because it enabled me to find certainty in some things I never would have even engaged with otherwise. People complain about the tone on DW, and sometimes it's a legitimate complaint, but sometimes it is karma actually being worked out, and IMO that should be not only respected, but valued.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by practitioner » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:49 pm

No, but I feel my knowledge and awareness of other schools has increased.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by amanitamusc » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:24 am

practitioner wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:49 pm
No, but I feel my knowledge and awareness of other schools has increased.
+1

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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Wayfarer » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:30 am

Not really but have learned a lot about other perspectives and ideas I had never considered. I've particularly learned a lot about Pure Land due to the meticulous way in which those associated with it answer questions and link to resources about it. I still feel a basic affinity with Zen although I recognise that in my case, I'm mainly self-taught and loosely affiliated and that that is likely to remain the case.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Kim O'Hara » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:19 am

Wayfarer wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:30 am
Not really but have learned a lot about other perspectives and ideas I had never considered. I've particularly learned a lot about Pure Land due to the meticulous way in which those associated with it answer questions and link to resources about it. I still feel a basic affinity with Zen although I recognise that in my case, I'm mainly self-taught and loosely affiliated and that that is likely to remain the case.
+1

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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Mantrik » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:32 am

In Vajrayana you may take teachings and empowerments from all of them, especially as life presents different opportunities, but I certainly changed the emphasis of my practice from Gelugpa to Nyingma and Dzogchen and my masters reflect that. If you totally abandon one and exclusively take up another, maybe 'change' makes sense as an action. I tend to think of all Gurus as one and the Vajrayana path as one.
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Post by Simon E. » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:43 am

Yes, similar.
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Post by Grigoris » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:58 am

I shifted my emphasis from Kagyu to Nyingmapa. The forum helped me by informing me of the presence of decent teachers.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Miroku » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:22 pm

I have shifted from "just ChNNR" to Drikung Kagyu and ChNNR. Basically just found slightly more better approach for myself in order to develop.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Norwegian » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:44 pm

I have not.

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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by DNS » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:03 pm

I haven't changed schools, I'm still primarily Theravada, however, it has changed me for the better. From practicing and studying and participating in online forums, I've adjusted my thinking for the better. When I first became Buddhist my thinking was Theravada = old, original; Mahayana = later, added teachings; but later I realized it's much more complicated and neither can stake claim to be the original and that there was a wide confluence of teachings that developed together and influenced each other.

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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:09 pm

No, basically not. I have changed schools since E-Sangha, however. The inception of Dharma Wheel aligns with the time period when I was transitioning from Zen to Tibetan. I definitely look at E-Sangha as a major catalyst for my change from Zen to Tibetan, and actually for my initial foray into Zen and Buddhism in the first place.

I look at Loppon Malcolm's Abhidharmakosha class as the solidifying point of my transition from Zen to Tibetan. I had already been interested in studying Indian Mahayana works from my early days in Zen practice, but it was Malcolm's class on the Kosha (which incorporated some Dzogchen) that really put the nail in the coffin for me. I met my root teacher later that same year.

The Kosha class did essentially line up with the early days of Dharma Wheel, but I wouldn't have been interested in it had it not been for E-Sangha.

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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Vasana » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:15 pm

Karma Kagyu to begin with and now main focus on ChNNR's transmissions alongside Kagyu so not really a 'change'.

The forum has changed my views for the better on Pureland and also Nichiren in particular although I still don't know much about either.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Jeff H » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:21 pm

I didn’t see a survey response that fit me. I came here with 10 years of Gelug lamrim and I was solidly Sutrayana. I had intentionally bracketed Tantra because the explanations I received about it indicated to me that it was beyond my capability. DW greatly expanded my awareness of Buddhist traditions and practitioners in general and helped me self-reflect on my Sutrayana journey. Malcolm, among others here, helped me see Dzogchen as the appropriate Vajrayana continuation of that journey. That process of change is still in its infancy. As others have stated, I revere all the prior involvements that have brought me to this place.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:34 pm

I was, and remain, a staunch Hahayanist.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Kunga Lhadzom » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:19 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:34 pm
I was, and remain, a staunch Hahayanist.
:jumping:


I still don't know what I am....but i love everything. ..it was always my problem in life that I couldn't focus on one thing...I had so many interests.....but i think i shifted more now towards dzogchen....But i think the VAJRACAKRA forum was the initial catalyst ...but DW has also been instrumental in my inspiration to keep going.....i've been in limbo so many times...
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Kunga Lhadzom » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:11 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:54 pm
I think the Hahayana might be a good fit for you.
Yes......but my straight jacket is a little too tight :crying:
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Ayu » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:11 pm

practitioner wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:49 pm
No, but I feel my knowledge and awareness of other schools has increased.
Yes. I wanted to say that also.
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Re: Have you changed Buddhist schools since joining DW?

Post by Ayu » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:15 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:03 pm
I haven't changed schools, I'm still primarily Theravada, however, it has changed me for the better. From practicing and studying and participating in online forums, I've adjusted my thinking for the better. When I first became Buddhist my thinking was Theravada = old, original; Mahayana = later, added teachings; but later I realized it's much more complicated and neither can stake claim to be the original and that there was a wide confluence of teachings that developed together and influenced each other.
:heart:
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