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Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Malcolm » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:28 pm

Mod Note: Split from "Can Nichiren Buddhists chant "Om mani padme hum" to the Gohonzon?"
dharmapdx wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:08 am
I'm really not trying to be cute here. LOL. Given that this is a Tibetan chant.

No, it is not a "Tibetan" chant. It's source is the Ārya-karaṇḍavyūha-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra, a sūtra which entered the Chinese canon rather late (983).

More info here:

Author:Studholme, Alexander
Title:The Origins of Oṃ Maṇipadme Huṃ: A Study of the Kāraṇḍavyūha
Publ. Date:2002
Publ. Details:Albany: State University of New York Press
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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Queequeg » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:16 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:28 pm
dharmapdx wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:08 am
I'm really not trying to be cute here. LOL. Given that this is a Tibetan chant.

No, it is not a "Tibetan" chant. It's source is the Ārya-karaṇḍavyūha-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra, a sūtra which entered the Chinese canon rather late (983).

More info here:

Author:Studholme, Alexander
Title:The Origins of Oṃ Maṇipadme Huṃ: A Study of the Kāraṇḍavyūha
Publ. Date:2002
Publ. Details:Albany: State University of New York Press
Is this one of those texts that made its way to Tibet via China? Or was that text also transmitted directly to Tibet also?

The first place I heard that chant was at Wutaishan.
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

I think each human being has things to find out in his own life that are inescapable. They’ll find them out the easy way or the hard way, or whatever.
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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Malcolm » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:41 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:16 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:28 pm
dharmapdx wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:08 am
I'm really not trying to be cute here. LOL. Given that this is a Tibetan chant.

No, it is not a "Tibetan" chant. It's source is the Ārya-karaṇḍavyūha-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra, a sūtra which entered the Chinese canon rather late (983).

More info here:

Author:Studholme, Alexander
Title:The Origins of Oṃ Maṇipadme Huṃ: A Study of the Kāraṇḍavyūha
Publ. Date:2002
Publ. Details:Albany: State University of New York Press
Is this one of those texts that made its way to Tibet via China? Or was that text also transmitted directly to Tibet also?

The first place I heard that chant was at Wutaishan.
Direct, translated into Tibetan earlier than China.
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Queequeg » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:07 pm

I've read references to texts translated into Chinese much earlier that make reference to six-syllable dharani associated with the six forms of Avalokitesvara. Are there such texts in the Kangyur?

Is there significance to there being six syllables?

In Japan, the chant I've heard associated with Avalokitesvara is "Namu Kanzeon Bosatsu".
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

I think each human being has things to find out in his own life that are inescapable. They’ll find them out the easy way or the hard way, or whatever.
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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Malcolm » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:23 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:07 pm
I've read references to texts translated into Chinese much earlier that make reference to six-syllable dharani associated with the six forms of Avalokitesvara. Are there such texts in the Kangyur?

Is there significance to there being six syllables?

In Japan, the chant I've heard associated with Avalokitesvara is "Namu Kanzeon Bosatsu".
In general, six syllables stands for the six lokas.

This dharani text was translated from Chinese into Tibetan:

ārya-bodhisattva-avalokiteśvara-sahasra-bhujanetāsaṅga-mahākāruṇika-citta-vistara-paripūrṇa-nāma-dhāraṇī (千手千眼觀世音菩薩廣大圓滿無礙大悲心陀羅尼經)

These dharani texts exist in both Tibetan and Chinese:

ārya-avalokiteśvara-ekadaśamukha-nāma-dhāraṇ (十一面觀世音神呪經)

ārya-avalokiteśvara-hayagrīva-dhāraṇī (陀羅尼集經)

ārya-avalokiteśvara-mātā-nāma-dhāraṇī (觀自在菩薩母陀羅尼經)

ārya-avalokiteśvara-nāma-aṣṭaśataka (聖觀自在菩薩一百八名經)
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Virgo » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:04 am

Very interesting.

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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by Virgo » Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:51 am

Off topic posts removed.

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Re: Source of Om Mani Padme Hum

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:36 am

Aryjna wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:50 pm
It has been translated recently: http://read.84000.co/translation/UT22084-051-004.html
it is amazing !
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