I think you messed up with the quoting here.Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:21 pmSure it has. But your criteria for understanding this necessarily involves you understanding what yogis say, not what physicalists cannot understand due to the limitations of their methodology.
I can't decipher what you are trying to say.
It has been demonstrated that consciousness arises from something other than the brain? So I am told.
I find that I honestly can't go beyond what I can observe, and that involves a correspondence between my brain and being conscious. How do I come to that? A lot of it is information I accept on faith in scientific literature. Some of it is direct experience of being knocked out for surgery. From what I hear, the way anesthesia works to disrupt consciousness is compelling. Also, observing the effect of food and drugs. It suggests consciousness is tied in with this body of mine, whether its the brain or maybe my fingernail... Does consciousness transcend this body? So I am told; so I accept on faith.
Well, that is a good general rule to use commonly defined terms. I was originally responding to the assertion that anything but rebirth requires an irrational proposition. I wasn't really trying to engage any particular teaching.When discussing Buddhist things, it is good to stick with the Buddha's language. The Buddha defined the composition of the universe with six dhātus: earth, water, fire, air, space, and consciousness (vijñāna). He nowhere described some phenomena termed "awareness" as one of the fundamental constituents of the universe. Since awareness is a cognitive term, it must be included within consciousness, and since there is no such a thing as an objectless awareness by definition, it would be best described as a mental factor that accompanies consciousness, for example, as saṃprajāna, a mental factor that accompanies all mindful states: as in mindful and aware.
Am I missing something in my observations? Quite possibly. Is what I observe something other than "samprajana" or is it "samprajana". I haven't taken the time to consider it.