On the role of "Buddhist philosophy" in Buddhism. Packaging and product.

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Viach
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On the role of "Buddhist philosophy" in Buddhism. Packaging and product.

Post by Viach » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:14 am

Firstly, the phrase "Buddhist philosophy" is an oxymoron. Like black whiteness or white blackness. For, Buddhism is a purely practical teaching. Physics can be theoretical, but there cannot be theoretical Buddhism, in principle. Philosophy cannot be practical (as an instrument for achieving enlightenment), only yoga (a set of specific practices) can be practical.
What is so unsuccessfully called "Buddhist philosophy" is, in fact, just a set of descriptions of the experience gained as a result of practicing Buddhist yoga. Therefore, there cannot be any “Buddhist philosophy,” but it can be only exclusively Buddhist yoga and a description of its results.
Secondly. "Buddhist philosophy" does not have any (practical) meaning for a Buddhist, as in fact, "Buddhist philosophy" is a Buddhism "for others": for those who are not Buddhists. Therefore, a Buddhist (being not another for himself/herself) does not need a "Buddhist philosophy." Moreover, it is harmful to him/her. For it distracts from practice, and, specifically, from Buddhist yoga. In the best case, "Buddhist philosophy" is a PR for other philosophies or other schools within the "Buddhist philosophy", as well as for those who are just choosing their path. The “practical” goal of a particular philosophy is a victory in a philosophical argument. The victory in the dispute is needed to attract recruits and donates. That is, the role of "Buddhist philosophy" is in a social advertising. Or you could say it is a social package for Buddhist yoga. To use the product itself (here, Buddhist yoga), we open and discard the packaging (here "Buddhist philosophy") as unnecessary one. Packaging has done its useful work and we don’t need it anymore. But, unfortunately, it is widely believed that “Buddhist philosophy” is.,supposedly, fundamentally necessary to achieve enlightenment. That is, we must eat the product along with the packaging.
Further. Buddhist yoga is Buddhism "for oneself." For, enlightenment is achieved only by yoga (without "Buddhist philosophy") and only of oneself. This is confirmed by numerous examples of enlightenment by illiterate people. For example, to do tantric practice, one does not need any "Buddhist philosophy." It is enough to follow the oral instructions of the realized teacher. And the life of Naropa is a vivid example of the futility of "Buddhist philosophy" to achieve enlightenment.
P. S. Remember to remove the packaging before you start your meal! Bon Appetit!

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Re: On the role of "Buddhist philosophy" in Buddhism. Packaging and product.

Post by Astus » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:09 am

Viach wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:14 am
Buddhism is a purely practical teaching.
That itself is already a philosophical stance, a basis you attempt to argue for, again, a very philosophical approach. You might want a short review of What is Philosophy?
Philosophy cannot be practical (as an instrument for achieving enlightenment), only yoga (a set of specific practices) can be practical.
Practice has to be based on right view, and practice itself brings one to confirming in experience the validity of right view, hence one begins from wisdom to end at wisdom.
1 Myriad dharmas are only mind.
Mind is unobtainable.
What is there to seek?

2 If the Buddha-Nature is seen,
there will be no seeing of a nature in any thing.

3 Neither cultivation nor seated meditation —
this is the pure Chan of Tathagata.

4 With sudden enlightenment to Tathagata Chan,
the six paramitas and myriad means
are complete within that essence.


1 Huangbo, T2012Ap381c1 2 Nirvana Sutra, T374p521b3; tr. Yamamoto 3 Mazu, X1321p3b23; tr. J. Jia 4 Yongjia, T2014p395c14; tr. from "The Sword of Wisdom"

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Re: On the role of "Buddhist philosophy" in Buddhism. Packaging and product.

Post by SteRo » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:17 am

I am not able to find a categorical difference between "buddhist philosophy" and "buddhist doctrine". I.e. the 4NT, the Eightfold Path and the like may be called both, "buddhist philosophy" and "buddhist doctrine". So I cannot follow the OP :shrug:

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