Relation of 4NT & 8FNP to tantric grounds and paths?

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Relation of 4NT & 8FNP to tantric grounds and paths?

Post by Lotus_Bitch » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:35 am

I was wondering whether anyone has come across any explanations of a correlation between the 4 noble truths and 8 fold noble path and how it fits into the grounds and path of tantra?
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Re: Relation of 4NT & 8FNP to tantric grounds and paths?

Post by Aemilius » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:45 am

Tsele Natsok Rangdrol makes in his Lamp of Mahamudra a correlation between the Four Yogas of Mahamudra and the 37 Wings of Enlightenment. The Noble Eightfold Path is included in the 37 Bodhipaksha; the 37 Factors or Wings of Enlightenment.
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Re: Relation of 4NT & 8FNP to tantric grounds and paths?

Post by Lotus_Bitch » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:03 pm

Aemilius wrote:Tsele Natsok Rangdrol makes in his Lamp of Mahamudra a correlation between the Four Yogas of Mahamudra and the 37 Wings of Enlightenment. The Noble Eightfold Path is included in the 37 Bodhipaksha; the 37 Factors or Wings of Enlightenment.
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I was looking for something like this.
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Re: Relation of 4NT & 8FNP to tantric grounds and paths?

Post by Jinzang » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:48 am

The four noble truths are understood on the path of seeing and the eightfold path is practiced on bodhisattva stages.
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Re: Relation of 4NT & 8FNP to tantric grounds and paths?

Post by Dave The Seeker » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:14 am

I read this this morning and thought it may be of some help.
The Noble Eightfold Path consists of three parts,
which can be practised first sequentially, then concurrently.

The first is Moral Conduct.
It is the clearing of the garbage floating on the surface
of the lake of our mind.

The second is Mental Development.
It is the stilling of the lake of our mind.

The third is Wisdom.
It is the looking into the depths of the lake of our mind,
to realise what it is all about -
to clearly see the reality of mind and matter.
http://buddhanet.net/flash/the-daily-en ... index.html


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