Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by WuMing » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:03 pm

Ayu wrote:
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I recommend that when anyone decides to make a Dharma connection with someone, they take some time to investigate the person they wish to make a connection with.
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How was this one illuminating?
Maybe not illuminating, but a sound advice which is often forgotten, especially by newbie.
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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by Hieros Gamos » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:31 pm

Ayu wrote:How was this one illuminating?
Nobody does it.

I want to get to the first stage of realization. Do you know how to do this? What are the steps in particular? How do you know this? What do you claim to have attained? What are your strengths and weaknesses? Oh, you um "teach internationally"? What's your level of availability? Why do you teach? If there's a problem with you is there a governing organization?

Etc.

How many people do that as opposed to just glance at the resume?

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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by Ayu » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:27 pm

Hieros Gamos wrote:
Ayu wrote:How was this one illuminating?
Nobody does it.

I want to get to the first stage of realization. Do you know how to do this? What are the steps in particular? How do you know this? What do you claim to have attained? What are your strengths and weaknesses? Oh, you um "teach internationally"? What's your level of availability? Why do you teach? If there's a problem with you is there a governing organization?

Etc.

How many people do that as opposed to just glance at the resume?
May you please explain, what you wrote? I don't have the foggiest idea what you mean. :shrug:
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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by uan » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:54 pm

Ayu wrote:
Malcolm wrote: I recommend that when anyone decides to make a Dharma connection with someone, they take some time to investigate the person they wish to make a connection with.
How was this one illuminating?
Ayu wrote:
Hieros Gamos wrote: Nobody does it.

I want to get to the first stage of realization. Do you know how to do this? What are the steps in particular? How do you know this? What do you claim to have attained? What are your strengths and weaknesses? Oh, you um "teach internationally"? What's your level of availability? Why do you teach? If there's a problem with you is there a governing organization?

Etc.

How many people do that as opposed to just glance at the resume?
May you please explain, what you wrote? I don't have the foggiest idea what you mean. :shrug:
PNs are also accepted. :smile:
I guess a good starting point would be for you to explain how Malcolm's comment isn't illuminating.

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Post by Ayu » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:24 pm

Yes, that is a good starting point.
I never wrote, it isn't illuminating, I just asked. I believed, it must be illuminating for Wu Ming, cause he quoted it in here. So I asked why. And he explained it. Thank you.

I''m sorry, I'm not able to write or to read between the lines. My English is simple. I asked for my better understanding. Okay? :smile:
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Post by uan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:03 am

Ayu wrote: I''m sorry, I'm not able to write or to read between the lines. My English is simple. I asked for my better understanding. Okay? :smile:
No need to be sorry for your English. I wouldn't be able to participate on a non-English forum, so I have massive respect for non-native English speakers who do participate here (and on other English language forums)!

One thought I had was that the initial question you asked was exactly as you said, asking for a simple clarification. It was my error not to just ask if that's what you were asking about. :anjali:

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Post by WuMing » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:11 pm

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Post by WuMing » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:51 pm

Our compassion, etc., no matter how "spontaneous" it is, is always tainted with objectification.
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Post by WuMing » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:31 pm

This quote can be used as a reminder, one I often enough forget myself, way too often infact. Thank you Malcolm for posting and participating on this forum, I appreciate your knowledge, insights and comments very much!
It is amazing to see how people think that their limited, conventional, "empirical", consciousness is the benchmark for truth. This limited, conventional, "empirical", consciousness is precisely the reason we sentient beings transmigrate in samsara. The "empirical" world we experience is just a kind of karmic vision. It is no more true than a dream.
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Post by daelm » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:33 pm

Virgo wrote:I've had the incredible fortune to read Malcolm for almost a decade. It's hard to express how beneficial it has been for me. That's the truth.

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agreed. more than i can properly communicate.

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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by WuMing » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:40 pm

ON SAMAYA
... Samaya is not some invisible force. Samaya is simply an agreement. If you don't want that agreement anymore, it is dissolved.
Samaya is like any other vow. It is a sustained intention. When one changes one's intention, that stream is interrupted.
... commitment to liberation, which is the essential "samaya" in which all other relative samayas are contained.
(all emphasis mine)

these quotes come from this topic How long do you meditate for?

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Post by WuMing » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:16 am

Three quotes:
Emptiness is emptiness. There is only one way to realize it, which is, to realize it. Everything else is bullshit.
found here Bliss in Zen (sukha)
Interpretations of and approaches to emptiness are not important. Realization of emptiness is important.

Gate gate paragate parasamgate bodhi svāhā.
found here Bliss in Zen (sukha)
There is no technique: there is only recognition, realization and awakening. Meditation is a distraction.
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Post by Saoshun » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:04 pm

There is no afterlife, just one long bardo that begins with delusion and ends with awakening.
How do you know it? It's like saying that after death will be haven. Is not changing anything in person experience of life besides beliefs which can be anything.

can you explain more Malcom?

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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:45 pm

Saoshun wrote:
There is no afterlife, just one long bardo that begins with delusion and ends with awakening.
How do you know it? It's like saying that after death will be haven. Is not changing anything in person experience of life besides beliefs which can be anything.

can you explain more Malcom?
This is one of my all-time favorite quotes from Malcolm. I'm also interested in hearing more :D

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Post by Saoshun » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:49 am

and if there is no afterlife per se, why people do phowa etc?

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Post by Malcolm » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:50 pm

Samsara itself is a bardo, as is awakening. It does not matter how many "lifetimes" we spend in it, since the mind stream itself does not die, but in each lifetime, appropriates a new form.

The bardo of samsara begins with delusion and ends with awakening, there is no "afterlife."

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Post by Adamantine » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:30 pm

It just so happens the Rigpa Glimpse of the Day for today April 8th, just appeared in my inbox:
Because life is nothing but a perpetual fluctuation of birth, death, and transition, so bardo experiences are happening to us all the time, and are a basic part of our psychological makeup. Normally, however, we are oblivious to the bardos and their gaps, as our mind passes from one so-called solid situation to the next, habitually ignoring the transitions that are always occurring.

In fact, as the teachings can help us to understand, every moment of our experience is a bardo, as each thought and each emotion arises out of, and dies back into, the essence of mind. It is in moments of strong change and transition especially, the teachings make us aware, that the true skylike, primordial nature of mind will have a chance to manifest.
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Post by Grigoris » Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:43 pm

Adamantine wrote:Because life is nothing but a perpetual fluctuation of birth, death, and transition, so bardo experiences are happening to us all the time, and are a basic part of our psychological makeup. Normally, however, we are oblivious to the bardos and their gaps, as our mind passes from one so-called solid situation to the next, habitually ignoring the transitions that are always occurring.

In fact, as the teachings can help us to understand, every moment of our experience is a bardo, as each thought and each emotion arises out of, and dies back into, the essence of mind. It is in moments of strong change and transition especially, the teachings make us aware, that the true skylike, primordial nature of mind will have a chance to manifest.
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Post by Adamantine » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:05 am

Sherab Dorje wrote:
Adamantine wrote:Because life is nothing but a perpetual fluctuation of birth, death, and transition, so bardo experiences are happening to us all the time, and are a basic part of our psychological makeup. Normally, however, we are oblivious to the bardos and their gaps, as our mind passes from one so-called solid situation to the next, habitually ignoring the transitions that are always occurring.

In fact, as the teachings can help us to understand, every moment of our experience is a bardo, as each thought and each emotion arises out of, and dies back into, the essence of mind. It is in moments of strong change and transition especially, the teachings make us aware, that the true skylike, primordial nature of mind will have a chance to manifest.
Now that is one sexually satisfying quote! :smile: Who is it from?
Pretty sure 95% of the quotes in the Rigpa glimpse mailings are from Sogyal Rinpoche,, , if they are not then they're attributed. You too can subscribe: glimpse@rigpa.org
I'm not sure how I got on their list but there's some golden nuggets in there so I am happy to keep em coming.
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Re: Illuminating Quotes by Malcolm Namdrol-la

Post by WuMing » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:22 pm

The following is a post that shows, once again, how fortunate we all are to have Malcolm here on DW (actually we all should be very grateful), and that he actually shares some of his time here. This is how I feel and think about it, at least!
on translation I can't speak to what other translators do or don't do. And of course more than one scholar has taken issue with Dowman's translations, the same applies to Tony Duff, etc. But that is not very important. Why? We would be very foolish to think that after translating Dharma texts into English for a generation that we are in any position to stake out definite positions about how things could or should be translated into English.

For example, someone brought up the example of "stong pa nyid" as a translation for śūnyatā. Śūnyatā was originally translated into Tibetan as "ye 'byams." Very few people are aware of this, and so we run into rather strange translations of the term, not realizing it translated śūnyatā. So what to do? Do we translate it as "having always been without limitations?," "having always overflowed?," two quite literal translations of the term? Or do we use the very loose approximation "timeless infinity," as one translator suggests? Or do we translate it as emptiness, as we generally translate stong pa nyid? ...
from the thread Keith Dowman's argument for his "interpretive free" translation style

Thank you Malcolm for this post and your thoughts on translation, and showing your approach to translation work.

Thank you! :bow:
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