It is so right.the sun and moon comes from the karma of the heavenly beings who were reborn out of heaven
Nothing happens without cause,creator-no way in Buddhism
The whole world produced by the creatures who inhabit.
It is so right.the sun and moon comes from the karma of the heavenly beings who were reborn out of heaven
By focussed habits on that what we think we are and that what we think others are, we miss the shared space in which all is playing. In the spacelike Mind all is embraced, while in my narrow individual mind I dearly protect my suffering.Everyting that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see. Martin Luther King, Jr.
So you actually believe that you have objective reality, but that the sun and moon do not ?hop.pala wrote:It is so right.the sun and moon comes from the karma of the heavenly beings who were reborn out of heaven
Nothing happens without cause,creator-no way in Buddhism
The whole world produced by the creatures who inhabit.
Simon E. wrote:So you actually believe that you have objective reality, but that the sun and moon do not ?hop.pala wrote:It is so right.the sun and moon comes from the karma of the heavenly beings who were reborn out of heaven
Nothing happens without cause,creator-no way in Buddhism
The whole world produced by the creatures who inhabit.
You may have missed the meaning of those passages.hop.pala wrote:I only wrote something.For any other explanation please turn to the moon and the sun
Because all phenomena seems permanent and solid unless you apply discriminative wisdom. This is the common reality prior to closer investigation. Can´t blame anybody, really.PadmaVonSamba wrote: How can people not know this stuff?
.odysseus wrote:Because all phenomena seems permanent and solid unless you apply discriminative wisdom. This is the common reality prior to closer investigation. Can´t blame anybody, really.PadmaVonSamba wrote: How can people not know this stuff?
Even most people who don't have discriminating wisdom have some access to the internet!
I dont think.Or not literally create,only dependent arised with the beings,ultimately it is only creation.Created through the collective karma.So, to say "someone (or something) made the Sun" is nonsense.
As the being going under in the material,attracts according to karma astral and mental matter ect...therefore dominate-even unaware- the material,like as a jogi who can do it but no unaware.Avidja=creation.(samsara)Planets occur because of conditions which do not require any awareness of them in order for them to form.
I just tried closing one eye and everything looks the same to me.muni wrote: Watch around, then close one eye and all appears as a flat screen of mind. Like watching space-tv. Then the experience I is weaker, thingnesses are not at all so solid anymore.
As in equipoise no view, no difference sir.garudha wrote: I just tried closing one eye and everything looks the same to me.
Try closing all three!muni wrote:As in equipoise no view, no difference sir.garudha wrote: I just tried closing one eye and everything looks the same to me.
Okay.PadmaVonSamba wrote:Try closing all three!muni wrote:As in equipoise no view, no difference sir.garudha wrote: I just tried closing one eye and everything looks the same to me.
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I'm glad you posted this. So many people have the idea that there is no objective condition. Or that By suggesting that there is an objective condition you are somehow asserting permanence or that there are really existant 'things'.PadmaVonSamba wrote: Planets occur because of conditions which do not require any awareness of them in order for them to form.
There is a lot that goes on all around us that there is no awareness of,
things that happen deep beneath the ground, so this simply concept should be too hard to grasp
even though it occurs on a relatively large scale.
I say relatively, because compared to some other stars in our galaxy,
our Sun is barely a spec.
Now, you may ask, 'if there is no awareness of them,
How do I know there is no awareness of them?"
But, as I have pointed out above, with the example of cancer,
we know because of the effects they produce.
For example, a Tsunami is caused by the movement of tectonic plates.
Unless one has the right instrument to detect certain earth movements,
one cannot know that these things are taking place, until it is too late and the wave hits.
Likewise, cancer can go through your body without you knowing about it until it is too late to treat it.
In other words, things can happen that there is no awareness of
and only when they cause other things to occur, can we look back
and realize that something had been brewing all along.
A thousand years ago, people didn't know as much about the universe as we do today.
they though the sun and moon were the same size, or were flat discs.
They though the universe has North, South East and West directions.
Today we know that there is nothing to show that is true.
The belief that nothing occurs unless it is an object of awareness
is absolutely stupid
and a gross misunderstanding of the Dharma teachings.
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A thing seems to happen when mind grasps/gives attention to some thing/event.. only.The belief that nothing occurs unless it is an object of awareness
is absolutely stupid
and a gross misunderstanding of the Dharma teachings.
Can you please provide a reference for the existence of an "objective condition"? I know that the notion is put forward in Theravada Abhidhamma but Mahayana?Andrew108 wrote:I'm glad you posted this. So many people have the idea that there is no objective condition. Or that By suggesting that there is an objective condition you are somehow asserting permanence or that there are really existant 'things'.
You can look here - http://www.lamayeshe.com/index.php?sect=article&id=417Sherab Dorje wrote:Can you please provide a reference for the existence of an "objective condition"? I know that the notion is put forward in Theravada Abhidhamma but Mahayana?Andrew108 wrote:I'm glad you posted this. So many people have the idea that there is no objective condition. Or that By suggesting that there is an objective condition you are somehow asserting permanence or that there are really existant 'things'.