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How Tibetans really feel about the occupation

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Re: How Tibetans really feel about the occupation

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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Malcolm » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:50 pm

http://freetibet.org/news-media/na/tibe ... protesters
Monday, 23 January 2012

Norpa Yonten who was killed as Chinese forces opened fire
Chinese security forces opened fire on Tibetan protesters, killing at least one man, earlier today.

Free Tibet is aware of more than 30 others who have been injured, many of them shot, after a large gathering in Draggo (also known as Drango) was fired upon. It is not known why the Chinese opened fire.

The situation is still ongoing.

Tibetans shot

The dead man has been named as Norpa Yonten (right), a 49-year-old lay person from Norpa village, Norchung township in Draggo County. His body has been taken to the nearby Draggo monastery.

At least one other person has been taken to the monastery with gunshot wounds. Locals are fearful to take the injured to hospital in case they are arrested.

Tibetans are reportedly travelling to Draggo and large crowds are gathering in the grounds of the monastery.

Arrest of Tibetans

It is still unclear what sparked the protest. There are reports that Tibetans around Draggo were arrested this morning on suspicion of distributing leaflets and posters calling for freedom and the protest was a response to these arbitrary detentions.

There are also claims that it was in response to celebrations marking the Chinese New Year which many local Tibetans had decided to boycott due to the growing unrest.

The protesters were heard to call out for freedom for Tibet and the return of the Dalai Lama.

Internet access is now banned in Draggo.
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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

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[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Post by drodul » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:34 pm

And as for the "religious freedom" some continue to assert that Tibetans enjoy:

"Kalachakra incites hatred and terror, says China

Phayul - July 10, 2014 20:17
By Phuntsok Yangchen

DHARAMSHALA, July 10: China has denounced the ongoing 33rd Kalachakra Initiation given by the Tibetan leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama in Ladakh alleging that it incites 'hatred and terror'.

“The ceremony incited hatred, terror and extremist action, seriously tarnishing the Kalachakra's nature of solemnity and purity, and affecting the healthy development of Tibetan Buddhism,” said Li Decheng, head of the religious studies at the China Tibetology Research Center.

Decheng further said that the Kalachakra is against the solemnity and purity and that it is used for political ends by 'separatists'.

More than a hundred thousand people from various countries are attending the religious discourse and initiation in Leh, Ladakh.

Paramilitary troops were deployed to block Tibetans from making a pilgrimage to the sacred Mount Kailash in western Tibet and restrict travel in border areas, a move to prevent Tibetans from attending the Kalachakra.

In Lhasa, capital of the Tibetan Autonomous Region, the Chinese government authorities have stopped issuing new travel permits or renewals and asked those who already have obtained permits to return them to the authorities.

Tibetans have been warned that they would be denied the 'themthho', a government issued household registration, if they travelled to India for the Kalachakra in Ladakh. Tibetan officials serving in the government have been asked not to seek leave from April to September this year failing which they would lose their jobs..."

(from phayul.com )

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Punya » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:40 pm

Tibetan writer and advocate Tsering Woeser and her family were placed under house arrest in Beijing this Tuesday. The detention came immediately after Woeser received a call inviting her to visit the US embassy. Neither the Chinese government nor the US embassy have offered any comment.

Woeser, who maintains a website called Invisible Tibet, was given an International Women of Courage Award by the US State Department last year. According to the State Department, her website, along with her other writings and her use of social media, “have given voice to millions of ethnic Tibetans who are prevented from expressing themselves to the outside world due to government efforts to curtail the flow of information.”

For more information on Tsering Woeser and her story, see here http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/sinosph ... -news&_r=1&" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"
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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Malcolm » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:47 pm

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[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Malcolm » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:49 pm

On Monday, during the telephone interview, Ms. Woeser gave a dire assessment of the situation in Tibetan regions, where more than 120 people have set themselves on fire as a political protest in recent years, unnerving Chinese officials.

“The current situation hasn’t changed, and the oppression still has not been relaxed,” she said. “As for what will happen in the future, it’s difficult to predict. On the one hand, the authorities’ policy of guilt by association is very harsh, and also the current tactic of control is one of micromanagement. The entire Tibetan area is under a management grid. On the surface, it appears that the situation had been easing up from such strict control, but it hasn’t. The Lhasa that I know is still under tight control.”
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[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Grigoris » Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:58 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Grigoris » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:41 pm

Off topic posts removed.

Please keep the discussion on topic.

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Nemo » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:28 pm

A taste of the misinformation operations Tibetans have to deal with.
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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by JKhedrup » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:10 pm

Heartbreaking.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-grah ... 93665.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A key part of the Chinese plan has been flooding Tibet with Chinese immigrants from the east. Already Lhasa is 60% Chinese. The best-paying jobs all go to Chinese while Tibetans pick through what's left. Tibetans often suffer low-level harassment of many kinds that restrict where they can travel and where they can live. They can get thrown in jail for downloading a photograph of the Dalai Lama. In schools, Chinese is taught as the "mother tongue." In those few places where Chinese signs are translated into Nepalese and English, the Chinese characters are twice as large as the English and four times as large as the Tibetan. The Tibetans get the point.

Poke behind the Potemkin walls, however, and just a few hundred yards from the manicured boulevards of downtown Lhasa you'll find acres of simple Tibetan houses, made of stone and cinderblock. It's a crime not to fly the Chinese flag from your roof, but two-thirds of these little households risk a heavy fine not to do it. The victory is temporary: Tibetan houses are being bulldozed one by one, with their residents moved to Cabrini Green-type high-rises as fast as these can be built. Farm folk who've been scratching a living on their land for generations are now watching Chinese soap operas on the 16th floor of a Cabrini Green flat instead of talking with their friends in local teahouses and watching the sun go down over an acre or two of their barley. Forced moves like this starve not bodies but souls. The idea is to lead Tibetans, especially young Tibetans, to forget who they are.

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by drodul » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:55 pm

Not so much about how Tibetans really feel as about how they DON'T feel, but seems relevant: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/world ... share&_r=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and: http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/201 ... -accounts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: How Tibetans feel about the occupation of Tibet

Post by Malcolm » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:20 pm

“Tibetan Buddhism designed by the CCP”
By Woeser

Not long ago, several important incidents took place in succession: 1) Because of a minor explosion at the end of October 2011, of the originally over 300 monks only 6 are now left in Karma Monastery in Chamdo County, Kham, TAR. 2) At the end of 2012, Drongna Monastery in Driru County, Nagchu Prefecture, TAR was closed down, all monk residences were sealed and many monks arrested; subsequently, the Tarmoe and Rabten monasteries of Driru County were also closed down. 3) In December 2013, an official government notice was issued to the famous Labrang Monastery in Sangchu County, Gannan Autonomous Prefecture, Gansu Province, requesting to expel all non-local monks studying at the monastery within a three months period.

At the end of 2008, I wrote several essays: “‘Patriotic Education’ in Tibet”, “Another Cultural Revolution is Quietly Sweeping across Tibet’s Monasteries”, “Behind the Curtain of ‘Legal Education’”, “The Intentions Behind Transforming Monasteries into Tourist Attractions”, “The ‘Clean Up’ of Lhasa that is Hidden from the Outside World”. It is evident that the encircling and annihilation of Tibet’s monasteries is continuously moving forward, becoming more and more far-reaching. Just as I wrote at the end of 2008, “the local Party authorities are currently launching the cruelest and most bitter clean up of Tibetan monasteries since the Cultural Revolution. In the Chinese media, none of these “black box operations” are ever mentioned. Another Cultural Revolution is currently sweeping across Tibet. In 1966, Buddhist temples and statues were smashed and monks and nuns expelled, leaving behind a forlorn field of ruins. Now this second Cultural Revolution will completely eradicate any genuine monks and nuns, leaving behind nothing but the shell of monasteries and monks and nuns who are bound to lose their courage and conscience.”

If we have not already forgotten, we must remember how on October 4, 2008, the three main monasteries in Lhasa – Drepung monastery, Sera monastery and Ganden monastery – were attacked by military police in the middle of the night, monks – almost entirely students of Buddhism coming from Gansu, Qinghai, Sichuan, or Yunnan provinces (officially called “the four Tibetan provinces”) – were arrested at their residences. They were sent to Gormo military prison and repatriated to their hometowns after the Beijing Olympics; none of them were allowed to ever return to the monasteries.

It has always been true that more than half of the monks in Lhasa’s three main monasteries were not locals. This is a 500-year-old tradition, existing ever since the establishment of these three main monasteries, and it is the tradition of 2000 years of Buddhism. This, indeed, also includes monasteries of Chinese Buddhism that have always been inhabited by monks from all across the country. Today, Chinese monasteries have remained the same, monks from different counties and provinces reside there to study, but the monks of Lhasa’s three main monasteries have been expelled and imprisoned by military force. This has hardly ever happened in the history of Tibetan Buddhism, it only started occurring frequently in modern times under the rule of the CCP.

If we have not already forgotten, we must remember the official Tibetan document that appeared on the website of the local authorities at the end of 2008; it was a decision issued by the head of the Kardze Autonomous Prefecture targeting all 18 counties of Kardze Prefecture, stating that the local authorities will carry out the following steps against 10-30% of the monasteries whose nuns and monks participated in the protests: any religious events will be forbidden, the movement and actions of nuns and monks will be strictly controlled; all nuns and monks inside monasteries must once again “officially enrol”, all monks and nuns who do not pass the “patriotic education” examination will be expelled, all monks residences will be demolished. As for those who participated in the protests, in minor cases they will be sent back to their hometowns, in severe cases they will be imprisoned.

Starting from 2011, work groups have been stationed inside over 1700 monasteries in the TAR, employing over 7000 members of staff. Altogether, the official number of registered monks and nuns is 46,000; does this mean that each official stationed in a monastery is responsible for 6-7 monks? The problem is that in Karma Monastery, the birthplace of the Kagyu school of Tibetan Buddhism, for example, officials currently outnumber monks. So does this mean that the goal of this movement, launched by Chen Quanguo and now already experiencing the third change of shifts, is to step-by-step decrease the amount of monks and eventually close down all monasteries?

Meanwhile, the authorities of “the four Tibetan provinces” are equally encircling and attacking the over 150,000 monks and their monasteries. It is impossible that all these local cadres are simply imitating what officials in the TAR do; no, these are clearly the hard-liner policies coming from the highest level. In fact, it is the continuation and implementation of Mao Zedong’s “Tibet Policies”. Mao once said: “We must also reform all monasteries. After successful reform, there will be a time when the number of lamas is greatly reduced… how should we reform monasteries, you should think of a solution.” (May 7, 1959, Guidelines After Putting Down Tibet’s Revolt). This so-called solution seems to be the model that we can observe in today’s Karma and Drongna monasteries and also in Lhasa’s three main monasteries, it is a model of Tibetan Buddhism designed by the CCP.

Lhasa, January 2014

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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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