Everybody speaks about samaya, but nobody knows what it is.

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Everybody speaks about pure perception, but nobody knows what it is.
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Vasana wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:34 am I actually think it would be better to have a samaya 101 thread, lock it and then disallow further samaya threads.
This is an exceedingly :good: and would also limit the potential for inadvertent breaches of samaya by talking about samaya. As well as the endless repetition of the topic. There's enough material in this thread alone to provide a 101.
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PeterC wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:56 am
Vasana wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:34 am I actually think it would be better to have a samaya 101 thread, lock it and then disallow further samaya threads.
This is an exceedingly :good: and would also limit the potential for inadvertent breaches of samaya by talking about samaya. As well as the endless repetition of the topic. There's enough material in this thread alone to provide a 101.
Maybe we can stick this thread, so it is always at the top of the sub-forum. If people believe it is valuable.
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I endorse the idea of sticking this thread.
Unfortunately good content intertwines with blabber and junk, doesn't make it read easily.
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Samaya to my knowledge has specific as well as broad general meanings. In my experience when the term Samaya is used as part of usual discussion in Vajrayana communities, it is used to imply commitments towards one's teacher.

To give non-specific examples, a Lama might give a commitment of making a student do 100 000 mantra recitations within that lifetime, a different Lama might ask a student to a practice daily without missing.

Unfortunately I have broken some Samayas because some important aspects of commitments I have failed to uphold.
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Dharmasherab wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:36 pm Samaya to my knowledge has specific as well as broad general meanings. In my experience when the term Samaya is used as part of usual discussion in Vajrayana communities, it is used to imply commitments towards one's teacher.

To give non-specific examples, a Lama might give a commitment of making a student do 100 000 mantra recitations within that lifetime, a different Lama might ask a student to a practice daily without missing.

Unfortunately I have broken some Samayas because some important aspects of commitments I have failed to uphold.
Practice commitments are not Samaya. If you don't keep your promise to practice it certainly isn't good, but you really haven't broken your Samaya.

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Thank you Magnus. In that case I need to learn what Samaya really means.
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Dharmasherab wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:41 pm Thank you Magnus. In that case I need to learn what Samaya really means.
https://bodhicharya.org/teachings/archi ... -vajrayana

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