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Post by aparajita » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:16 am

What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.

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aparajita wrote:What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.
Considering that Santa Muerte is a Mamo spirit, Simhamukha.
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Post by aparajita » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:28 am

Konchog1 wrote:
aparajita wrote:What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.
Considering that Santa Muerte is a Mamo spirit, Simhamukha.
That's interesting. I've never heard of her placed in that category before. Having thought about it a bit, how about Chamunda?

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Post by Konchog1 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:51 am

aparajita wrote:
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aparajita wrote:What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.
Considering that Santa Muerte is a Mamo spirit, Simhamukha.
That's interesting. I've never heard of her placed in that category before. Having thought about it a bit, how about Chamunda?
I suppose, I only know Simhamukha is good for Mamo trouble and black magic in general.
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Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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aparajita wrote:What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.
Why not petition Santa Muerte yourself and ask for the work to be lifted? Unless the person has some specific pact with the Saint, I don't see why petitions with applejuice or apples won't get the work removed.

Also why not petition other Saints?
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Post by Malcolm » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:17 pm

aparajita wrote:What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.

Simhamukha is the most effective deity for this.
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Post by Grigoris » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:33 pm

If yuou don't have all the Vajrayana prerequisites for Simhamukkha you could also try the Sutra practice of Ushnisha Sitatapatra. She is also very effective against curses, black magic, etc...
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Post by Soma999 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:22 pm

Hi,

Considering curses and other kind of negativities, what is important to consider is that those negativites are dependent upon your mind. That is, most of them need YOU to work out well. They need the power you give to them.

For exemple, some people are sent curses and they experience, if the negative person has some energy, a little problem. But when someone tell them "this person - so powerful, even a master, the greatest sorcerer..., of course ! - is using sorcery againt you", then, the real problems come... why is it so ? Because the person first didn't give any attention to the problem, and then, the person is believing into those negativites and feed them. And the slightest problem feed the curse : "ah, i am attacked..."

So, know that many curses work well because the victim feed them. Or the "victim" feed also thought of revenge, hatred, and that open the door for receiving even more problems.

So, what to do ? Exactly the opposite. Instead of giving your faith and your power to the negativities who dance in front of you telling you "yo, see how i'm powerful ? believe in me...", just give your power to your Refuge, for exemple.

People just curse themselves ! "oh, he/she looked at me this way, spoke such strange things..." well if such little things start to move your out of your center, black magician have really no work at all to do their stuff...

Instead of feeding weakness, thinks "i am a child of the Buddha, i am not so easily touched, even if they are one thousands against me, the Buddha in me is one with the infinite. I live in joy and peace and won't feed this bullshit".

This belief in sorcery is like a bad song inside. Just don't feed it, and replace it with the sound of the Dharma. Until this negative tune, the horrible song is forgotten.

"No matter what has been done, i am one with the Buddha, i am one with the Dharma, i am one with the Sangha. I am fully protected, and whatever is sent to me, i forgive that, and i give it to the Three Jewels. If they attack me, they attack the Three Jewels".

Also, forgive and even bless the person. Love is the greatest power. It's not just words. it's something to experience. Compassion is your shield.

And decide that you refuse to give in to those negativity (black magic and all the stuff). Just decide it. As simple as it seems, specialists of distant action even says that one of best protection is a full and complete decision not to be touched and influenced. A decision coming from the heart, without hopes and fears. Just a "not for me, thanks but no thanks". Take this decision while visualising all your refuge, feeling they also support you and empower you in this way.

People who surprotect themselves - a bigger shield ! and an even bigger one ! and a shield with an armor inside a fortress ! - also believe they can be touched. If there is someone to defend, there is someone to attack. When the defense is stronger, then the attack becomes even stronger and so on... until you connect to love, compassion, unity and decide to stop feeding this duality. Unified with Unity, there is no more fight. The one who attacks you is losing, as you don't stand againt him : you stand with unity. There is no more "you as a separate and weak being". There is no more "you separated from me". There is Unity you serve, and Unity that protects you. It's also one of the key related to Chod.

The real enemy is fear. The more you fear and want to separate yourself, the more you are vulnerable. When you express love, compassion, fear dissolve, which is the inner enemy.

Then, when you immerse yourself in the light of your Refuge, when you radiate blessings - even to your ennemy - and compassion and decide to remove yourself from this "worlds of negative sorcery", and take the decision "i allow nothing and no one to move me from my center", repeat it unitil it's deeply anchored, you are well protected.

Then, coming from this space, you can use a sadhana to remove any negative energy. Sitatapatra is perfect, as it as been recommended. Simhamukha is perfect to reverse black magic also as it as been said. Once the sadhana done, feed it's efficiency with your thought, and if you want to express doubt, direct them to what scares you. Doubt of their powers, doubt their capacity. And if you can even laught of that, you are taking away all their weapons directed at you.

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Post by javier.espinoza.t » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:49 pm

aparajita wrote:What deities or sadhanas would be most effective in countering a curse where someone called upon Santa Muerte? I'm asking for future reference. For background, Santa Muerte is a Central American death goddess who is very popular in Mexico and among those who are from Mexico.
Dakini Singhamuka fits for every curse/blackmagic purge -stopping the spell, turn it to dust, and turn it back to the source-.
Another practice that fits is Guru Thragpur Kilaya.

In general with any wrathfull deity practices we can manage this kind of problem if it's a serious problem and a menace to our path to total realization, but at least this two above are instantly effective in any case -for example if our energy is being provocated, our sleep is disturbed, etc- if they are practiced in the correct way..

In order to succeed, initiation and instructions from a certified teacher are needed -by certified i mean a holder of an pure, unbroken lineage-.

Another alternative is the dorje kotrab retreat and daily recitation is usefull if you are lay -it has no conduct restriction-.

If we consider that if someone is sending you this provocation and sees it is not effective, then it is possible than that person redouble his/her efforts and insist -which is the normal attitude-. So we need to think a little more deeply while dealing with this kind of problems. Considering that, I suggest doing chöd practices.

Those above depends on you personal activity.
Those below are not.

You can also do the dharma protectors practices and offerings, use an empowered protection amulet prepared by a serious practitioner -like a dorje kotrab amulet for example-, use an empowered averting image, and so.

There are many tools -methods, sadhanas- depending on our possibilities and inclinations.

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