Buddha and Non-Dual Means

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Buddha and Non-Dual Means

Post by sangyey » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:50 pm

Did Buddha teach non-dual means like that found in Tantra?

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Re: Buddha and Non-Dual Means

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:45 pm

Who do you think taught tantra?

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Re: Buddha and Non-Dual Means

Post by Vasana » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:39 am

It depends on your definition of 'means'.

The Buddha taught non-duality, but Tantra is distinguished for having a wider repertoire of means and methods available to realize the fruit.
'When alone, watch your mind. When with others, watch your speech'- Old Kadampa saying.

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Re: Buddha and Non-Dual Means

Post by sangyey » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:13 am

Like Buddha taught having the conventional and ultimate aspect of reality in one act of cognition.

Or something like when King Ja received the Statue of Vajrapani he meditated on its form and emptiness appearance but that this was something that had already been taught by the Buddha.

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Re: Buddha and Non-Dual Means

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:42 pm

all buddhadharma aims non-duality, even if we don't get the point
that's why it's called buddhadharma

to me there is no difference in the aim of sutras, tantras and dzogchen that is buddhahood, and that's noon dual
so the means may vary, according to the audience, that's all
"Don't profess a view you haven't realized!
Since the view is devoid of viewing, mind essence is an expanse of great emptiness.
Since the meditation is without meditating, leave your individual experience free from fixation.
Since the conduct is without acting, it is unfabricated naturalness.
Since the fruition is without abandoning or achieving, it is the dharmakaya of great bliss.
These four sentences are words from my heart:
Contradict them and you fail to discover the nature of Ati Yoga."


Guru Padmasambhava.
From "Advice from the Lotus-Born".

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