Lungta/Prayer Flags

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Hello all,

i would like to make lungtas, but i dont know much about designs, are there some directions on this matter? i mean for making them in a correct way.

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Since we're on the topic, if anyone could help with this, it would be appreciated very much. I have wondered about this too.

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In my estimation making the flags would be pretty simple, one could even buy them. But knowing when and where to hang them: thats most important!
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Ok, I agree that the time of putting them up is important. I've always tried for the morning of "PF days" based on my calendar. Mornings better? Same as later in the day?

I disagree that making them is simple, although buying them is definitely an option. The designs seem traditional, precise, and significant. Which is to say, without woodblocks, or some kind of accurate design on a computer, making your own seems iffy. I say this having tried to design my own a few times, and they didn't "feel" right, so I took them down in favor of the real thing.

I've seen purely decorative ones (like with "Peace ... love... kindness" on them) but that seems totally different, a decoration only, not an effective ritual object.

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jkarlins wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:56 am Ok, I agree that the time of putting them up is important. I've always tried for the morning of "PF days" based on my calendar. Mornings better? Same as later in the day?

I disagree that making them is simple, although buying them is definitely an option. The designs seem traditional, precise, and significant. Which is to say, without woodblocks, or some kind of accurate design on a computer, making your own seems iffy. I say this having tried to design my own a few times, and they didn't "feel" right, so I took them down in favor of the real thing.
If you can't read the script on them, and no one around you can, well then...
By making them is simple, I wouldn't take too much to print on or to just draw on to cloth. Mantras, magic words, auspicious symbols, etc, just have to see that the ink doesn't mess up if it gets wet. Right?
It's sympathetic/correspondence magic.

Maybe the only difference between the ones you made and the ones you call 'the real thing' is just your faith.
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It's an interesting point, faith, and we could spin off in any number of directions from here. I'd worry that it would become a sort of back and forth argument, and I'm not really interested in that. It can work sometimes, but here it seems not to, most times. Which is to say, I hold to my original point re: precision although I don't want to press the issue.

But really I'd like hear from others who have some understanding or experience of making lungtas. If you or others have done so, and are happy with the results, or have a good story, I'd be glad to hear it.

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Not easy without print. Often when you buy them, you can support/benefit a monastery or project. Some kinds: https://tnp.org/tibetan-prayer-flags-made-blessed-nuns/ Perhaps you can find some info here http://www.instructables.com/id/Tibetian-Prayer-Flags/ and https://classroom.synonym.com/how-to-ma ... 77960.html

Lasts now are hung above barbed wire, a wire symbolic to the variety of pain of beings of the so called realms and the wish to soften or free all from pain. Hanging them for the benefit of all is very much benefitting, because by the care for all a much vaster joy opens, send in all directions, while the ‘joy’ by protection, pleasing oneself is very unstable as trying to hold water in a fist.

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When we did them in our community we needed at least 3 people on making them and 1 to dry them. But that was our first time doing it soo there must be better way. Anyway you need a printing wood (really not sure how it is called in english) with the details carved into it. AFAIK the design on them doesn't really matter.
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Print block is needed. This is not present?
An idea: No need to add olympics.
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Good advice, but please get the lung/oral transmission for sang and/or lung-ta. This is a vital part of making these practices work. Maybe not 100% indispensable, but vital none the less. The more you practice, the more you will understand this. It is not simply a conceptual thing but a meditative experience.

Good luck & best wishes.
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pemachophel wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:57 pm Good advice, but please get the lung/oral transmission for sang and/or lung-ta. This is a vital part of making these practices work. Maybe not 100% indispensable, but vital none the less. The more you practice, the more you will understand this. It is not simply a conceptual thing but a meditative experience.

Good luck & best wishes.
Yes! I more or less know, and have friends who know better how to empower lungtas 😋

Now i'm working on the woodblock hehe!!!
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