Quay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:32 pmHe seems to have upped it to a new level of...something. He's now naming names of some people it seems he's not pleased with, and two of them are Nyingma Lamas, at least one of which was his student or still is, and it seems he's engaging in the same behavior he accused the students of SR of doing.
Or in other words, it is possible to a least read a kind of breathtaking hypocrisy in a Nyingma Lama publicly calling out by name two other Nyingma Lamas who are or at least were his students for being upset with him for calling out the students of a Nyingma Lama.
And I say "seems" because I can't really go by anything but what I read on FB and have to rely on the words and try to understand their meaning as best as I can.
The post seems juvenile to me. I don't understand what it is other than some fairly base level shit talk.
Honestly it's the kind of thing I'd expect to see on well....a bad day on DW; rather than a communication from a well-known Lama, lol. It basically sounds like he's saying "if you think there's an possibility I'm in the wrong about the Sogyal thinkg, then don't show up to my teachings".
It's actually a reasonable request, and any astute Vajrayana student would already know not to go take an empowerment from someone they have doubts about, but the tone the message is delivered in seems petulant to me.
It's interesting to see Vajrayana culture (or parts of it) come up against notions of accountability it's not used to..wonder where this will end.
treehuggingoctopus wrote:The transmission of Vajrayana to the West, the interpenetration of Vajrayana and its traditional cultural contexts, the relationship between Buddhadharma, its traditional host cultures and the 21st century globalised West -- all these are sensitive topics that urgently need all the wisdom and knowledge and experience we can muster. Pretty much each passing day brings further evidence that all is not going well, and we clearly need to talk these things through -- and do it tactfully, with appropriate care. Stirring and (increasingly dubious) attempts at "transgressive" humour will not do.