Prayers and mantras

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I have been to large empowerments IRL as well as watched ChNN's webcasts over the years.

IMO at very large empowerments, you are mainly just listening to stuff through the speakers and won't get any personal contact with the lama anyway. It's really not very different from something completely digital except the ritual assistants will touch your head with the items.

IME, I found ChNN's webcasts more meaningful than any of the IRL empowerments I went to. YMMV.
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MiphamFan wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:31 am I have been to large empowerments IRL as well as watched ChNN's webcasts over the years.

IMO at very large empowerments, you are mainly just listening to stuff through the speakers and won't get any personal contact with the lama anyway. It's really not very different from something completely digital except the ritual assistants will touch your head with the items.

IME, I found ChNN's webcasts more meaningful than any of the IRL empowerments I went to. YMMV.
Same here, I'm glad I've had the experiences I did at empowerments ive done in person, they were certainly precious...but receiving transmission via webcast from ChNN was a shockingly singular experience - even when I wasn't really taking it seriously the first few times.
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Tenma wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:26 am
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:05 am
Punya wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:14 pm If you use the search function you'll find there's been an extensive discussion on this.
According to my research a full empowerment is not possible through live webcast. Thats what I thought.
Depends on your teacher. If it's Garchen Rinpoche or Namkhai Norbu or a similar teacher, it's alright.
Does Garchen transmit Dzogchen too?
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Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:54 am
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:05 am
Punya wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:14 pm If you use the search function you'll find there's been an extensive discussion on this.
According to my research a full empowerment is not possible through live webcast. Thats what I thought.
Your "research" clearly hasnt been very exhaustive.
As Peter says above, there are many authentic masters who confer full and legitimate empowerments via webcast etc.
A prominent member of this forum said that. You can take it up with him. If I understood him correctly he was saying they are legitimate but were only "meaning" empowerments as opposed to full empowerments. This is regarding ChNN.
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Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:16 pm
Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:54 am
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:05 am
According to my research a full empowerment is not possible through live webcast. Thats what I thought.
Your "research" clearly hasnt been very exhaustive.
As Peter says above, there are many authentic masters who confer full and legitimate empowerments via webcast etc.
A prominent member of this forum said that. You can take it up with him. If I understood him correctly he was saying they are legitimate but were only "meaning" empowerments as opposed to full empowerments. This is regarding ChNN.
Thats ChNN, not all lamas.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:13 pm
Tenma wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:26 am
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:05 am
According to my research a full empowerment is not possible through live webcast. Thats what I thought.
Depends on your teacher. If it's Garchen Rinpoche or Namkhai Norbu or a similar teacher, it's alright.
Does Garchen transmit Dzogchen too?
Garchen Rinpoche teaches extensively on the Yangzab cycle which is essentially Dzogchen
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Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:20 pm
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:16 pm
Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:54 am

Your "research" clearly hasnt been very exhaustive.
As Peter says above, there are many authentic masters who confer full and legitimate empowerments via webcast etc.
A prominent member of this forum said that. You can take it up with him. If I understood him correctly he was saying they are legitimate but were only "meaning" empowerments as opposed to full empowerments. This is regarding ChNN.
Thats ChNN, not all lamas.
Which lamas would you recommend?
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cyril wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:25 pm
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:13 pm
Tenma wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:26 am

Depends on your teacher. If it's Garchen Rinpoche or Namkhai Norbu or a similar teacher, it's alright.
Does Garchen transmit Dzogchen too?
Garchen Rinpoche teaches extensively on the Yangzab cycle which is essentially Dzogchen
I see :thumbsup:
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Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:50 pm
Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:20 pm
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:16 pm
A prominent member of this forum said that. You can take it up with him. If I understood him correctly he was saying they are legitimate but were only "meaning" empowerments as opposed to full empowerments. This is regarding ChNN.
Thats ChNN, not all lamas.
Which lamas would you recommend?
For webcasts? Chnn of course and Garchen are the first two who regularly give webcast teachings/transmissions free of charge.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:04 pm
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:50 pm
Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:20 pm

Thats ChNN, not all lamas.
Which lamas would you recommend?
For webcasts? Chnn of course and Garchen are the first two who regularly give webcast teachings/transmissions free of charge.
k k.ill give them a shot and see where it takes me :)
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cyril wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:25 pm
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:13 pm
Tenma wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:26 am

Depends on your teacher. If it's Garchen Rinpoche or Namkhai Norbu or a similar teacher, it's alright.
Does Garchen transmit Dzogchen too?
Garchen Rinpoche teaches extensively on the Yangzab cycle which is essentially Dzogchen
He also teaches http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... nedek-root
"Hitting the Essence in Three Words"
His root Lama is Khenpo Munsel https://treasuryoflives.org/biographies ... unsel/9929
Garchen Rinpoche is a Dzogchen Master.
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Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:41 pm
Josef wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:04 pm
Ricky wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:50 pm
Which lamas would you recommend?
For webcasts? Chnn of course and Garchen are the first two who regularly give webcast teachings/transmissions free of charge.
k k.ill give them a shot and see where it takes me :)
May the Force be with you.
"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa
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