Obstacle years
Obstacle years
When do obstacle years occur? Is it every 12 th year..i.e. if i am year of the dog sign they will arise in that year..or is it when the 12/24/36 th year etc ends and i enter 13/25/37 th year etc.
Re: Obstacle years
Shiiiit... The past twenty years have been obstacle years for me, you get it light with just one!
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Obstacle years
So then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
-
- Posts: 59
- Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:11 pm
Re: Obstacle years
I do not want to interrupt your discussion, but does there really exist something like a centipede year in the Tibetan astrology/calendar?kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:56 pmSo then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
If so, then Kirt you have my deepest sympathy. I mean, I cannot imagine how you manage the footwear.
Re: Obstacle years
It does not matter when in the centipede year you were born, if you were born the day before the centipede year becomes the millipede year, you are still a centipede and it is still your obstacle year from new years onward.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:56 pmSo then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
Re: Obstacle years
So the year after your birth year is an obstacle year?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:21 pmIt does not matter when in the centipede year you were born, if you were born the day before the centipede year becomes the millipede year, you are still a centipede and it is still your obstacle year from new years onward.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:56 pmSo then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE
"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde
Re: Obstacle years
Well what if nothing particullarly challenging happens in the centipede year?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:21 pmIt does not matter when in the centipede year you were born, if you were born the day before the centipede year becomes the millipede year, you are still a centipede and it is still your obstacle year from new years onward.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:56 pmSo then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Obstacle years
Grigoris wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:34 pmSo the year after your birth year is an obstacle year?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:21 pmIt does not matter when in the centipede year you were born, if you were born the day before the centipede year becomes the millipede year, you are still a centipede and it is still your obstacle year from new years onward.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:56 pm
So then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
No, if you were born in a dog year, the dog year is your obstacle year. In Tibetan astrology, you are 1 year old the day you are born. Let's say you were born on the last day of this year, the fire bird year. On the first day of the following year, the earth dog year, you would be 2. Your thirteenth year would be the next bird year, that would be your obstacle year. Your 7-off side year would be the next rabbit year, which is the enemy of bird, another obstacle year. There are generally two obstacle years per 12 year cycle, your rang lo, or the animal year of your birth and the seventh year from that birth year.
Re: Obstacle years
That is just fine. Not everyone has the same cycle of elements, mewas, parkha and so on. And, karma trumps astrology.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:36 pmWell what if nothing particullarly challenging happens in the centipede year?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:21 pmIt does not matter when in the centipede year you were born, if you were born the day before the centipede year becomes the millipede year, you are still a centipede and it is still your obstacle year from new years onward.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:56 pm
So then, if one were born late in the centipede year, would the entire centipede year be the obstacle year or is it the year from ones birthday? Since people usually didn't know their birthday, is the year following the season that one was born in the obstacle year or is it considered to be the astrological year?
Thanks!
Kirt
Kirt
-
- Posts: 2229
- Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:19 pm
- Location: Lafayette, CO
Re: Obstacle years
one of my teachers just told me the effects of the obstacle year can sometimes be felt six months in advance if it's going to be a really bad year.
also, there are practices for turning back these negative conditions, at least in part.
also, there are practices for turning back these negative conditions, at least in part.
Pema Chophel པདྨ་ཆོས་འཕེལ
Re: Obstacle years
In general, for men the year before is also an obstacle year, for women, the year after.pemachophel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:43 pm one of my teachers just told me the effects of the obstacle year can sometimes be felt six months in advance if it's going to be a really bad year.
also, there are practices for turning back these negative conditions, at least in part.
Re: Obstacle years
WHAT?? There's another obstacle year? It's the 7nth year from the birth year in the cycle?
Mewas, parkha ? Are the elements other than the five elements (so are they some collection of something else or are they actually the five elements affected by time, location and other factors)?
Thanks!
Kirt
Last edited by kirtu on Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Obstacle years
So there's actually at least a third obstacle year. Does the before -after male/female rule also apply to the 7nth year?Malcolm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:45 pmIn general, for men the year before is also an obstacle year, for women, the year after.pemachophel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:43 pm one of my teachers just told me the effects of the obstacle year can sometimes be felt six months in advance if it's going to be a really bad year.
also, there are practices for turning back these negative conditions, at least in part.
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Obstacle years
Such as? Does sang offering cover it?pemachophel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:43 pm also, there are practices for turning back these negative conditions, at least in part.
Kirt
“Where do atomic bombs come from?”
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Zen Master Seung Sahn said, “That’s simple. Atomic bombs come from the mind that likes this and doesn’t like that.”
"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche
Re: Obstacle years
Is it better to focus on long life practices or obstacle removing practices in the obstacle year... of course Sangchod is also a given.
Re: Obstacle years
If you received transmission from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu, you might want to check "The four methods of development" book.kirtu wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:50 pmSuch as? Does sang offering cover it?pemachophel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:43 pm also, there are practices for turning back these negative conditions, at least in part.
Kirt
"You have to make the good out of the bad because that is all you have got to make it out of."
- Robert Penn Warren -
- Robert Penn Warren -
- KathyLauren
- Posts: 967
- Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:22 pm
- Location: East Coast of Canada
- Contact:
Re: Obstacle years
How is the concept of "obstacle years" helpful? Obstacles arise when they arise, regardless of the calendar. Deal with them as they arise. Deal with them before they arise if you can. What has the calendar got to do with it?
Om mani padme hum
Kathy
Om mani padme hum
Kathy
Re: Obstacle years
Obstacles arise indeed due to the karma accumulated but they can only manifest when there are secondary causes which allow them to. Obstacle years imply that there is conflict between the elements of life, body, capacity and fortune of the year of birth and the corresponding elements of the obstacle year. Hence, the secondary causes are set for the obstacles to manifest. At least, thats my understanding...KathyLauren wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:24 pm How is the concept of "obstacle years" helpful? Obstacles arise when they arise, regardless of the calendar. Deal with them as they arise. Deal with them before they arise if you can. What has the calendar got to do with it?
Om mani padme hum
Kathy
"You have to make the good out of the bad because that is all you have got to make it out of."
- Robert Penn Warren -
- Robert Penn Warren -