Confirmation is also present in Protestant churches.Grigoris wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:02 amThat is why I like the ritual of confirmation in the Catholic church. Though I believe that it should take place at a later age as kids (in the West) seem to mature much later in life than 12-13 (unlike in the past when they would already be working and preparing to get married).krodha wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:16 pmEven the presumption that the religion in question is connected to some sort of deva is lending a bit too much credibility in their direction, in my opinion.
I was baptized as a child and attended Sunday school before a series of instances such as the church giving my younger brother wine at communion causing him to barf all over the sanctuary area and then trying to take away his most loved and favorite teddy bear in order to donate it because "Jesus died for our sins." Unreal. My mother decided enough was enough and we never went back.
I couldn't give a shit if I was baptized or not, you really shouldn't either. It means less than nothing. My son is being raised without religion, and can decide when he's older if he wants to follow one. Hopefully he has the karma for the buddhadharma, we discuss it here and there but I don't push it on him and refuse to condition him.
Baptism is a meaningless representation of allegiance to a false system of belief.
There should be a legal 'rejection' (gentler term 'non-confirmation') option as well. It is disgraceful that people are baptised at all without their consent. I was told it was done because of the high risk of infant mortality so your dead baby goes straight to heaven. But I don't think any church accepts a formal rejection of it. People have done it though, formally, much to the consternation of the clerics.
There are even free online sites where you can create a formal piece of paper: