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Translators

Post by kalden yungdrung » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:46 pm

Tashi delek,

Want to bring under your attention, Erick Tsiknopoulos, a translator.

Seems that Erick Tsiknopoulos, can translate Tibetan to English very well


Here are some of his translations:
https://buddha-nature.com/lists-of-tran ... cal-order/

- What do you think about Erick Tsiknopoulos and his translations?
- Can he be accepted as a professional translator?
- Does somebody of you met him maybe ?
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Re: Translators

Post by tingdzin » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:59 am

I've not heard of him, but there are so many more or less capable translators around now, that that doesn't mean anything. The things he has listed on his page seem to be pretty innocuous, so even if he got something a little wrong, it would not be a terrible thing. He doesn't post the Tibetan with his translation, so there's no easy way to check the quality. For sadhanas or esoteric teachings, though, I'd be a little careful about accepting anybody's work unchecked.

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Re: Translators

Post by kalden yungdrung » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:22 pm

tingdzin wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:59 am
I've not heard of him, but there are so many more or less capable translators around now, that that doesn't mean anything. The things he has listed on his page seem to be pretty innocuous, so even if he got something a little wrong, it would not be a terrible thing. He doesn't post the Tibetan with his translation, so there's no easy way to check the quality. For sadhanas or esoteric teachings, though, I'd be a little careful about accepting anybody's work unchecked.
Tashi delek T,

Thanks for your reply. :anjali:

In the world of translators , there is a lot of competition about who is bad and who is ok.
Everybody also here wants a piece of the pie (commercial seen).
Therefore it is difficult to cheque who is a good translator and maybe also on top of that a good /realised Dharma practitioner.

Personal i go for a translator who is both, a good translator and a realised Dharma practitioner, but that is not always important / counting in the western world as necessary regarding business with knowledge.

We know many academics who claim their translations as authoritative, but you are right when you tell:" I'd be a little careful about accepting anybody's work unchecked".

Then i see the Tibetan is missing, but that is mostly missing because the majority cannot read and speak Tibetan, but for others who can, it would be useful to read the Tibetan/Sanskrit / Pali source text.

Who controls them, or makes the final control ?
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Re: Translators

Post by Lingpupa » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:24 pm

I PMd you Kalden
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Re: Translators

Post by kalden yungdrung » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:59 pm

Lingpupa wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:24 pm
I PMd you Kalden
:good:
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Re: Translators

Post by tingdzin » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:36 am

kalden yungdrung wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:22 pm
Who controls them, or makes the final control ?
No such thing as quality control on translators yet, probably won't be soon if ever.

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Re: Translators

Post by ollaimh » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm

in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.

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Re: Translators

Post by pemachophel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:42 am

I also PMed you.
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Re: Translators

Post by Tenma » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:27 am

ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
Since when did politics have to do with anything in Buddhism?

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Re: Translators

Post by amanitamusc » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:53 am

I will raise and send you 2 pm's. :tongue:

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Re: Translators

Post by Josef » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 am

ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
This. And he has been known to take payment for translations and never deliver the ordered product.
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Re: Translators

Post by Fortyeightvows » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:18 am

ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
In your experiance....
You know the guy?

His name sounds greek.
The website to me just is a list of texts, I couldn't see the actual translations :shrug:

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Re: Translators

Post by Josef » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:40 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:18 am
ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
In your experiance....
You know the guy?

His name sounds greek.
The website to me just is a list of texts, I couldn't see the actual translations :shrug:
Many people "know the guy" or have had encounters with him.
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Re: Translators

Post by pemachophel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:12 am

The name Erick is not his real name, nor is Tsiknopolous. I have no idea why he picked this Greek-sounding name, but I know it's not his real one.
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Re: Translators

Post by amanitamusc » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:46 am

pemachophel wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:12 am
The name Erick is not his real name, nor is Tsiknopolous. I have no idea why he picked this Greek-sounding name, but I know it's not his real one.
I agree and I would have chosen Mista Bob Dobalina.

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Re: Translators

Post by Adamantine » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:30 am

ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
:good:

This is my general impression... who can say if he has bodhicitta, however, he is is highly self-aggrandizing and highly argumentative, and acts like a troll online... not my idea of
qualities I look for in a translator...
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Re: Translators

Post by Adamantine » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:32 am

Josef wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 am
ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
This. And he has been known to take payment for translations and never deliver the ordered product.
In which case, he should be outed and ostracized. I blocked him on social media a long while back...
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Re: Translators

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Re: Translators

Post by amanitamusc » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:48 am

Adamantine wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:32 am
Josef wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 am
ollaimh wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:53 pm
in my experience erick is american far right wing kook politically. totally lacking in any compassion for others. that makes me suspicious of his translations. an acedemic not a compassionate buddhist.
This. And he has been known to take payment for translations and never deliver the ordered product.
In which case, he should be outed and ostracized. I blocked him on social media a long while back...
You have strong blocking power!

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Re: Translators

Post by Grigoris » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:52 am

Given that the person who is being discussed in this thread is not here to defend themselves, I do believe it is time to put an end to the slander and gossip.
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